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Currently if no-one has updated the wiki since the re-balancing of loot - there is no indication of which mob drops the loot.
As far as I am aware, Anti has changed the loot frequency and quantities rather than changed loot list that creatures drop.


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Re: Can we have the pre-Survival loot shown against mobs so we can locate mobs
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2014, 02:17:51 am »
Yikes, I either hadn't realized that the loot pages didn't show the previous mob lists or (more likely) forgot that this was one of the downsides of dale's new forms. Mob pages still list what they dropped in AWS, but there's no guarantee that they are dropping all the same things - and at least one indication that some mobs are dropping different things - and flipping through the various mob pages is far less easy than having the mobs listed on the loot pages the way they were previously.

This will either require that each loot item page be updated - requiring quite a bit of manual input for all such pages - or restoring the old mob tables to each page. The latter shouldn't be terribly difficult (especially by comparison to the former), but does require knowing what the table code looks like. Hopefully those of us with wiki editing accounts can all agree to chip away at the problem, but in the meantime I'll see about getting the tables back, assuming I can find an example page.
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Re: Can we have the pre-Survival loot shown against mobs so we can locate mobs
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2014, 10:03:07 am »
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Re: Can we have the pre-Survival loot shown against mobs so we can locate mobs
« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2014, 05:23:41 pm »
I was thinking of looking for the old pages until I saw that the Survival loot tables are still on each animal's page and decided to just update the new form using those tables. Darn short-term focus! LOL

Thanks Zwarky, I think your solution is the best way for people to know approximately what to expect until the new loot tables are done. With the recent changes, this may take a while but at least people will be able to see what people have recently looted. Just an FYI, I'm not going to fill in the "Last VU" or the "Still in loot" fields if I'm not sure of when the mob last dropped the loot. I'm still debating on whether or not to update the pages for the mobs that aren't even in AWS/AWR yet.
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Re: Can we have the pre-Survival loot shown against mobs so we can locate mobs
« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2014, 04:25:28 am »
All currently-available mobs have had their Rebirth loot tables set to match their Survival loot tables. This is only a temporary measure to enable the wiki to display the mobs that are likely to drop the resource that the page describes. For example, if you click Loot, then Basic wool you'll see that it can potentially be looted from Fouliscum, Foulito Alba, and Wolves.

Because I used the Survival loot lists this feature will actually tell you what mobs dropped any particular item in Survival. There's no telling how different the individual resource pages might look in a few months, once mob loot is better known and updated in Rebirth, but this should help everyone find what they're looking for in terms of loot.

I did not touch the loot tables for any mob that hasn't been seen in-game since Alpha since there's no way of knowing just how different their loot might be when they are back in the game. As a bonus, this means that the wiki won't encourage you to look for mobs that can't be found on the map.
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