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Discussions => Knowledge Database => Topic started by: Event "Janе" Horizon on March 11, 2013, 04:46:05 am
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Stone collection cost for Newcomer (Steel Pick efficiency 79%) for 0/100% Steel Pick
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Note #1: the DENSITY of stones differ from location to location (see https://my.afterworld.deelogic.net/survival/knowledge-database/new-urengoy-stones-by-location/ (https://my.afterworld.deelogic.net/survival/knowledge-database/new-urengoy-stones-by-location/)). So players can choose between collection speed vs. cost.
Note #2: Citizens that are more efficient at Steel Pick will have lower costs and faster collection times.
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Hope this helps.
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Am I right in interpreting the tables this way:
- Cost is the amount of AWD a newcomer with 79% Steel Pick efficiency would have to pay (or trade) to collect 500kg of the stone in the given row
- Amount is the mass of the stone collected from one Steel Pick used exclusively in the Location in that row
And that this assumes that the newcomer has been playing for a while to have 79% efficiency? Or do brand new, day one newcomers already have this?
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@Brickwit: Thanks for your feedback. The heading of the tables have been updated to make the columns easier to understand.
You have the right interpretation.
All newcomers start at Steel Pick efficiency of 79%. And since they cannot get skills - they stay at that level until citizenship.
You comments about the table are correct as well.
For example - a newcomer exclusively picking location 1 will collect a mixture of Coal, Nitre, Sulfur and Utium from the stones there.
To collect 500 kg of, say, Coal from location 1 - a Newcomer will use up multiple picks (2.73 Steel Picks on average) which equates to a crafting cost of 2.43 AWD (2.73 picks x the 0.89 AWD crafting cost of a 0/100% Steel Pick).
A single Steel Pick will pick on average 175 kg of Coal from location 1.
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You have an average Cost per Ton of 5.68 AWD, which I think is misleading. Shouldn't you say that as each area yields 4 types of stone at once, that the average cost is 1.42 AWD?
That would make it easier to see that selling at the current price of 4-5 AWD actually makes a profit and not a loss.
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All newcomers start at Steel Pick efficiency of 79%. And since they cannot get skills - they stay at that level until citizenship.
FYI newcomers can get skills , just cant unblock. ;)
Cheers
Axle
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Thanks Axle. Never knew that about Survival Newcomers!
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Yep, thanks Axle, I'd been wondering about that for some time now.
So how much does that affect Steel Pick EL? Does a newcomer with several picking-related skills blocked at 0/100% have a higher EL?
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Hi, a newcomer get a free 3/100% steel pick NE, this one dont give any skill/sau.
Mostly newcomers trie find at wiki and later at market a repair kit or how they can repair the steel pick.
After find there is no repair kit, etc. Normaly they buy normal steel picks. since when they trie the iron picks they never want trie it again xD.
After using the buyed steel pick and starting getting skills and sau they never think on repair old pick or use iron picks.
This is what happened to me. :)
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Hi, a newcomer get a free 3/100% steel pick NE, this one dont give any skill/sau.
Mostly newcomers trie find at wiki and later at market a repair kit or how they can repair the steel pick.
After find there is no repair kit, etc. Normaly they buy normal steel picks. since when they trie the iron picks they never want trie it again xD.
After using the buyed steel pick and starting getting skills and sau they never think on repair old pick or use iron picks.
This is what happened to me. :)
Hi Quim,
According to this topic (https://my.afterworld.deelogic.net/survival/newcomers-corner/steel-axe-ne/msg5037/#msg5037) (https://my.afterworld.deelogic.net/survival/newcomers-corner/steel-axe-ne/msg5037/#msg5037 (https://my.afterworld.deelogic.net/survival/newcomers-corner/steel-axe-ne/msg5037/#msg5037)), NE items should be repairable. Are you reporting that they are still not repairable?
Also, you mention players looking for repair kits, the items should be repairable using the same process as the Steel Pick (dragging the item to the repair / destroy icon at the bottom right of the players inventory (bottom left hand corner of this image)...
(http://wiki.afterworld.ru/images/thumb/1/1a/My_Inventory.jpg/180px-My_Inventory.jpg)
See this wiki (http://wiki.afterworld.ru/wiki/HUD) page (http://wiki.afterworld.ru/wiki/HUD (http://wiki.afterworld.ru/wiki/HUD))
I didn't think to include NE nor Iron picks in the original post.
I considered NE items to be limited edition type items that would not contribute too much to a player.
And though Iron picks have zero cost, these collect stones at a rate that is 4 1/2 times slower than steel.
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You 'charge' the repair/destroy tool with Common Slag or Scobs. Ask any old-timer and they will probably give you some for free :)
Just drag the slag/scobs on to the repair tool and then it will work for any item which can be repaired.
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The NE items can be repair.
When i tried know how to repair i just used the search engine at wiki, and i got several OLD items like ASP Repair Kit W10.
I ended triing find something at game that isnt there anymore at market terminal.
When later Mya as explained me all about repair stuff, i fell i cant trust wiki anymore lol
And your image is the best way to know where to find what, at the fastest speed. thanks for your work!
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The wiki's First Steps page describes the new repair kit very well.
http://wiki.afterworld.ru/wiki/Firststeps_Survival#Universal_Repair_Kit.2FTrash (http://wiki.afterworld.ru/wiki/Firststeps_Survival#Universal_Repair_Kit.2FTrash)