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Re: Couple of random questions from a Noob
« Reply #15 on: February 12, 2013, 09:31:29 pm »
It's no difference because its random, i think. Just the more you refine the more accurate the average amount will be. However, make sure to refine in multiples of 4kg. 4kg costs 0.01awd, from 1 gram to 3.99kg, it still costs 0.01awd. I usually refine in large amounts (1 ton)(if i can), but i think it makes no difference. (besides getting done faster)(example, lets say 200kg takes 120min, and 20kg takes 10 min, then 10 refines of 20kg will get you done faster (100min total, but in reality you'd be done in 15 min) than 1 refine at 120 min))

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Re: Couple of random questions from a Noob
« Reply #16 on: February 12, 2013, 09:35:47 pm »
i live on the full stack at a time part of the arguement.  I have seen competly different levels of skills on each refine so i agree with no differenmce, might as well speed up the process.
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Re: Couple of random questions from a Noob
« Reply #17 on: February 12, 2013, 11:20:47 pm »

Does the amount you refine at a time affect the skill gain? IE best skills if you refine loads of small amounts or is there no difference?

I would suggest you do your own tests.

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Re: Couple of random questions from a Noob
« Reply #18 on: February 13, 2013, 07:33:26 am »
Stones are often refined in NU for the skills they give for mineral refining and metal refining to increase crafting (plus other) abilities.

Moving bulk stones to other areas is currently not a required activity.


Does the amount you refine at a time affect the skill gain? IE best skills if you refine loads of small amounts or is there no difference?

It is as "The Allfather" has stated ... ultimately the amount does not matter.
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Re: Couple of random questions from a Noob
« Reply #19 on: February 13, 2013, 08:30:12 am »
everything has to do whit the average resoult in each activity in AWS
so when we talk about rafining the average amount of sau who determine the gain in skills too is
for Q stones 1,9k sau
for S stones 4,1k sau

so if u try to rafine 3 tons Q stones u will get let say 950 Sau / 1100 Sau / 1750 Sau
in this case the average is 3800/3=1266 Sau far from 1900 as it is the average amount
and if the rafining is splitted in small amounts the resoult is like the SR for other items from ex:75-100% , in this case u can gather the 1900 Sau / ton from many rafining pieces 100, 150. 250. 75, ...and so on, here is the trick what amount u need to do to get this resoult 1900 Sau/ Q ton rafines

remeber the test was made for 100 S-tons and 100 Q-tons ( Q qarantine stones, S Saransk stones)

for sar stones the test was same

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Re: Couple of random questions from a Noob
« Reply #20 on: February 13, 2013, 11:13:45 am »
Occassionally there are things which may not be obvious to all.
Always test things yourself.
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Re: Couple of random questions from a Noob
« Reply #21 on: February 13, 2013, 12:02:03 pm »
I can add that Iron can now be picked around Sar, so there is no need to transport it from NU if you want to just make Picks or Axes. You can either refine Coal in NU and transport it, or make the Steel in NU and transport that ( you must have researched it in Sar).
There is no point chopping trees in NU, although you can refine timber there, you can only use it in Sar, so you might as well chop trees at Sar.
Whether you refine just to get skills and Sau depends on your eventual aim and how much AWD you want to invest to get crafting skills. Myself I craft only enough to make my own Picks and Ammo.
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Re: Couple of random questions from a Noob
« Reply #22 on: February 13, 2013, 12:31:56 pm »
Myself I craft only enough to make my own Picks and Ammo.

Which makes total sense, at some point you will want to refine as a skill so if you dont have a use for it or an ability to sell it, keep it for later.  even the copper (I have well 200,000kg of it refined)
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Re: Couple of random questions from a Noob
« Reply #23 on: February 13, 2013, 09:21:22 pm »
     The main reason to keep an eye on how much you refine at a time is blocking skills, if you are close to 100% and don't have next level unlocked with sau, you could lose a few skill points refining a ton at a time.
     If you unblock a level or two higher than current skill level, go for bulk.
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Re: Couple of random questions from a Noob
« Reply #24 on: February 14, 2013, 08:47:07 pm »
Yep you guessed it another noob question :)

So while mining I noticed in some areas I get unknown stones because I am not high enough level, so when I unlock the level needed will all the unknowns in my storage change to the named item so I can see what I have?

Thanks in advance :)
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Re: Couple of random questions from a Noob
« Reply #25 on: February 14, 2013, 09:00:06 pm »
Yep you guessed it another noob question :)

So while mining I noticed in some areas I get unknown stones because I am not high enough level, so when I unlock the level needed will all the unknowns in my storage change to the named item so I can see what I have?

Thanks in advance :)
Correct ... As you get more skills existing 'unknown' stones in your inventory get named.
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Re: Couple of random questions from a Noob
« Reply #26 on: February 14, 2013, 09:01:46 pm »
Ahhh thank you :D
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Re: Couple of random questions from a Noob
« Reply #27 on: February 14, 2013, 09:21:08 pm »
If you are curious about what the stones are ahead of time you can compare their images with the Rock Stone wiki page. The Extracted Stone page shows the minerals and metals that can only be collected with underground mining equipment (once it's re-implemented).
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Re: Couple of random questions from a Noob
« Reply #28 on: February 14, 2013, 09:44:28 pm »
If you are curious about what the stones are ahead of time you can compare their images with the Rock Stone wiki page.


Page for compare Pictures for unknown
Metal or Mineral.

http://wiki.afterworld.ru/wiki/Unknown



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Re: Couple of random questions from a Noob
« Reply #29 on: February 14, 2013, 09:57:19 pm »
Ewwww - lets not forget the level vs rock page ... http://wiki.afterworld.ru/wiki/Unlock_Level
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