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Questions from a Newbie
« on: January 02, 2013, 05:43:19 am »
Hi all,

I'm giving AfterWorld a try. With the switch from Alpha to Survival it seems like there've been some changes and I'm confused about a couple things.

There was one post I read where it suggested that it was actually better to sell / trade the ore I'd mine for steel pickaxes & awd rather than turn it in for the p.notes. Then when I'd pay the 100AWD for citizenship I'd get stuff that would offset the costs, while being faster and I'd get skills. I could then come back and earn my 50 p.notes which were limited to 150 earned. 

Is this still the best choice?

With the limit on p.notes being removed I'd guess that their values' dropped, but there's some type of bonus for every 10 collected, so I'm not sure.

If I'm going to be deciding whether to collect resources sale (/trade) or for p.notes it'd be nice to know how much the stuff's worth:

What's a fair market price to pay for a Steel Picks / Steel Axes?

What's a fair rate to sell lumber / ore I collect at? 

What would be a fair rate to sell p.notes at?

What the difference in value of my reward if I paid 100 awd Vs. 100 p.notes for citizenship?

Would I get enough skills or SUAs to sell to make up any cost difference?

Also, the newbie area's seemed pretty empty, are there really only ~100 active players? And thanks to Razz & Axle who've both helped me out already :)
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Re: Questions from a Newbie
« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2013, 07:20:13 am »
You need 100 P.Notes to qualify for citizenship.
The 100 AWD citizenship currently only gives you a RIC (this has a face value of 100 AWD).


I would not recommend collection of  logs (i.e. using Steel Axes) at the moment - the tree bug means that there is a glut of  logs.


In Alpha - people traded stones equal to the value of the Steel Picks ... the cost of the picks was therefore the time required to collect ore.


There is  a cost to collecting each ore (depending on which stone you pick)
See http://talk.afterworld.ru/?showtopic=5407 this appears to also apply to Survival.
Trading for less than the steel pick cost is not recommended.


There are 340+ accounts (though this counts only those that log onto this forum).
The Survival Economy is less mature than Alpha.
Until it matures you should take any price recommendation with a pinch of distrust.
This includes SAU and Skill prices.
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Re: Questions from a Newbie
« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2013, 03:43:34 pm »
Steel picks are 6 times faster than the Iron ones. That's why they are a priority. In Alpha you had to trade about half their cost in stones to get them, but they were still 3 times faster.

Now that you need 100 PNotes for citizenship, this implies PNotes might halve in value, and this in turn implies the stones might halve in value too. I can't see how this is going to work out. It is bad enough that new players have to pick twice the number of stones, but if Steel picks become unaffordable, it would take 6 times longer to get citizenship than in Alpha. If PNotes retain their value of about 2.2AWD, then increasing the citizenship cost was pointless, it was better in Alpha to sell the PNotes and pay AWD, and that would be even more so in Survival.

We will have to see how the econony develops, and if any adjustments are made. As Jane says, best to just accumulate resources at the moment, and not trade until prices become clear, ( though that doesn't help with getting Steel picks).
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Re: Questions from a Newbie
« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2013, 09:03:28 pm »
You'll also note that the Ore Fields are well away from the NU outpost.


When overweight:

  • Newcomers have the advantage of reviving to get your ore back to storage without consuming clones
  • Citizens will consume a clone if they choose to revive; otherwise they need to got for a long run
  • Citizens who have Norilsk or Turukhansk registered will have a portion of NU out-of-bounds for NU revival
  • Newcomers that do not explore outside NU will always revive in NU outpost
These factors may help retain the value of stones.
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