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some newbie questions
« on: December 23, 2012, 10:37:46 pm »
Having trouble figuring a few things out. Any help would be appreciated.

1) How do you see your skills and eventually increase them (once you have the credits)?

2) Where in Urengoy is the probation officer. All I find are the ones offering mining missions for certificates and a third one telling me the probation officer is by a red pipe (which I also can't find).

3) How do you drop/destroy items that are in 0 condition and can't be repaired? right clicking them gives no options and dragging them into the world doesn't work.

4) Is the only way to get newbie clothes by buying citizenship? I didn't get any during the tutorial.

5) How to you auto repeat/stop weapon/tool use?

That's about it for now. Thanks in advance for any help.
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Re: some newbie questions
« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2012, 11:38:43 pm »
1) PDA (hotkey F9) --> Cerebrum Analyzer --> Skills Standings. Read  this for more info: http://wiki.afterworld.ru/wiki/Skill
2) I have not been able to work that out either
3) Drag into repair / trash icon at bottom left of inventory (read about your HUD here: http://wiki.afterworld.ru/wiki/HUD)
4) Become citizen using AWD (rather than P.Notes) - you get other valuables to greater value than the 100 AWD cost as well.
5) In aim mode (you'll have a cross-hair - toggle using [space-bar]), hold down [left mouse]; press the [space bar] quickly twice; release [left mouse]. Stop auto-click by pressing [space bar].[/left][/left]
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Re: some newbie questions
« Reply #2 on: December 24, 2012, 02:35:35 am »
many thanks for the info Singularity and also for the link to the wiki. I had found a link to what was said to be the wiki earlier, but it took me to a chinese web page and I assumed the wiki was defunct.
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Re: some newbie questions
« Reply #3 on: December 24, 2012, 03:20:59 am »
2) Where in Urengoy is the probation officer. All I find are the ones offering mining missions for certificates and a third one telling me the probation officer is by a red pipe (which I also can't find).

Probation officer?

In Alpha there was a NPC for the Tutorial standing
at a red Pipe (with new Tutorial he isn't need any-
more)

Or are you looking for the NPC selling Citizenship?
This one should be in the Revival/Storage Building.




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Re: some newbie questions
« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2012, 08:08:17 am »
I thought there was an NPC who would exchange 0/0 items.   Sorry - I haven't found him yet but I am saving mine up.
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Re: some newbie questions
« Reply #5 on: December 24, 2012, 08:21:32 am »
The wiki is still very much alive, though it is not getting as many contributions as it used to.

To expand a bit on the answers already given:
1. You can unblock higher skill levels at a Skills Activation Terminal, which requires Skill Activation Units (SAU) rather than credits.
3. When you try to repair an item with 0 repairs (no matter what the condition is) it will ask if you wish to destroy it. This is why it's best to pay close attention when trying to repair something because even with the confirmation window it's still possible to destroy something that's right next to what you want to repair.
4. Newcomers used to get a set of clothes when creating a new character but that seems to be disabled right now. It may come back one day though.
5. An alternate way of turning on (and off) the built-in auto-clicker (third-party auto-clickers and macro programs of any kind are completely "illegal") is to right-click-and-hold while left-click-and-holding, then releasing right-click, then releasing left-click. It's a sort of "rolling" of the mouse buttons and works best with a mouse (as opposed to trackpad buttons - though it works on trackpads too) and it only works while in cursor mode (when you have the mouse arrow showing). Pressing [space] is definitely the easiest way to stop the auto-clicker.


I haven't found the NPC that gives P Notes for 0/0 items either, but he should be in the game already.
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Re: some newbie questions
« Reply #6 on: December 24, 2012, 02:03:00 pm »
Many thanks to everyone for taking the time to answer.  I now have one more question.

I've decided to stay with this game for a while and contributed and used to AWD to buy citizenship.  The npc said I would get clothes and weapons, but I don't seem to have gotten anything.  Do I not get them until I leave quaranteen zone and travel to nearest city (as is the case with the deed)?
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Re: some newbie questions
« Reply #7 on: December 24, 2012, 02:57:06 pm »
I've decided to stay with this game for a while and contributed and used to AWD to buy citizenship.  The npc said I would get clothes and weapons, but I don't seem to have gotten anything.  Do I not get them until I leave quaranteen zone and travel to nearest city (as is the case with the deed)?

In Alpha you have to travel from Quarantine to Saransk
as a Noobot to be full Citizen. Once arrive you get some
Presents (and RIC if pay Citizenship with AWD)

Not sure how it will work now here in Survival, because
there isn't Labyrinth of Death (a Zone) anymore.

The NPC Dialog is here ... not sure if more Info available
in another Dialog after payed Citizenship.
https://my.afterworld.deelogic.net/survival/index.php/topic,789.0.html



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Re: some newbie questions
« Reply #8 on: December 25, 2012, 03:43:38 am »
Many thanks to everyone for taking the time to answer.  I now have one more question.

I've decided to stay with this game for a while and contributed and used to AWD to buy citizenship.  The npc said I would get clothes and weapons, but I don't seem to have gotten anything.  Do I not get them until I leave quaranteen zone and travel to nearest city (as is the case with the deed)?
I have yet to do the full citizenship testing.
However, I have been told that the same Alpha process applies in Survival.


The Become Citizen dialog implies that these AWD rewards will be given when you get to Saransk .
You will need to talk to the appropriate NPC there.


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Re: some newbie questions
« Reply #9 on: December 25, 2012, 02:05:31 pm »
I see. I must have misread it and got the impression that some of the benefits were available immediately.

But if they are not available while in quarantine zone, I'm puzzled as to what exactly the incentive to become a citizen is before leaving the zone.  That is, if you don't get clothes, or a better weapon, or the ability to raise skills, why bother. The market is dead (unless I'm missing something), so access does no good either.  There doesn't seem to be much of an incentive to contribute early in the game and that doesn't strike me as a very wise business strategy for the devs.

In an entirely different vein, I'm also a bit puzzled by the noobbot courier system. Where are the deliveries to and can you get back to the quarantine zone safely to eventually get another delivery mission? The same applies to the citizenship issue. If I leave to go get my benefits, can I safely come back to work some more on mining for promisary notes?  Is there a basic strategy for when a player does what to advance their character?

Thanks again guys for taking the time to explain things.
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Re: some newbie questions
« Reply #10 on: December 25, 2012, 03:42:15 pm »
you will need to go to saransk to get your citizenship and receive your offers (for me in alpha i did get nothing apart from the real estate deed which was what i really wanted :p). In Saransk economy is much better than in NU. in saransk you will want to make a decision on what to do, get to know the city first, and then it is my advice you get back to NU in mine stones, get some pnotes and cd's (after 10 mining deliveries) and skill up, get back to sar to upgrade your blocked skills, rinse and repeat
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Re: some newbie questions
« Reply #11 on: December 26, 2012, 12:31:24 am »
In Alpha it was once extremely difficult to get back to NU (called QA1 in Alpha, a.k.a. AWA) due to the previously-mentioned Labyrinth of Death (LoD) zone. That was later changed so that only couriers could enter LoD and new players that were leaving QA1 for the first time but was otherwise completely skippable. Newcomers were not able to leave QA1 at all until they either paid the 100 AWD or turned in the 50 P Notes. In Survival (AWS) the whole process is extremely different and it's entirely possible that you are the first newcomer to pay for citizenship since AWA closed, so there are some unknowns. Please let us know what the process entails when you leave NU and head for Saransk (Sar)!

Hugo's advice is the tried and true method that has been suggested to almost every new player. NU/QA1 has always been the place for low-skilled players to begin gaining a wide variety of skills in a safe environment, which has the great additional benefit of bringing people back to the area to help the newest of players. For now, with AWS being so new and with so many things not yet finished, it's hard to know if the formula will work better, the same, or worse than it used to. Until we all know more, it's probably what you're going to hear as the most common recommendation.
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Re: some newbie questions
« Reply #12 on: December 26, 2012, 08:05:37 pm »
OK. I made it to Saransk and found the NPCs in the storage building who gave me the realty certificate and took my DNA, but I can't find any other NPC's outside or in the other buildings who I can talk to in order to get my other gifts.  Is this a bug that I need to report or is he just carefully hidden?
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Re: some newbie questions
« Reply #13 on: December 26, 2012, 08:25:05 pm »
With the old process of being transported to Saransk as a noobot by a Courier you would essentially loot all of the gifts as soon as you finished teleporting into Saransk. Everything is very different now so I think we'll have to wait for word from the devs.

Go ahead and start a new topic in the Tech Forum reporting this as a bug (unless there is a response here first, of course).
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Re: some newbie questions
« Reply #14 on: December 26, 2012, 09:04:38 pm »
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