AfterWorld Survival Forum
Officials => Tech Forum => Topic started by: dale "dalewj" ofj on February 27, 2013, 09:37:38 pm
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this very strange semi speaking english person in my soc found a problem.
it seems that the alpha tree axe we got as our alpha freebe doesnt get much wood when it hits the tree. It gets between 0.2 and 0.9kg a hit.
usually an steel axe gets 1.5-1.6 ish
in all disclosure, cause some need it, i make note of this forsomeone else, completly and wholley. I personally could care less what a tree axe gets... This statement has been checked by the federation of Cycling and found steriod-free.
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That's certainly odd. A semi-speaking Englishman/woman? Must be awful quiet in your soc chat channel!
Also, according to the Christmas/New Year bonus item thread the items tagged with "Alpha" are supposed to work at 100% effectiveness regardless of skills. So yeah, quite the bug.
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No worries about soc chat ;) its fine :)) more than fine :D
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None of my items work at 100%.. rather, between 70 and 100%. helpticket already made asking why.. the axe and pick i sold on market at lower than steel version cost. (works like an iron pick)
Allfather
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I think the axe from the newbie quest is restricted, i noticed that myself.I just figured it was a demo tool.
Zen
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the free alpha i gave you money axe, not the newbie axe.
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the free alpha i gave you money axe, not the newbie axe.
Ok, well the newbie axe did that for me, whereas the donation reward axe gave me full resource.
When i saw it was doing it i swapped and all was good.
Zen
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Right, the NE tools from the tutorial give the same resource amounts as crafted tools. But the 'A' tools from donating during the bonus period give the same amount as with enough skills to give maximum effectiveness.
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This wasn't true for me. I got anywhere from 0.001kg to 0.9kg per swing. From my donations Alpha axe. And i wasn't real pleased, so i sold it for a small sum. The other items i recieved also do not work at the maximum output, but like I said from 71%-95% of the maximum output. I did make a ticket and eventually they will probably get to me. Maybe it is because i still have one or two skills blocked, but when i gave my item to a friend to use, they had the same results, a varying output. I orginally imagined maximum output was the highest number during every use.. perhaps this isn't so? in either way, the axe worked well below what it should have (i think). And if it worked at max output for some, but not for me, i'd like to figure out why..
Allfather
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and that is why we would all like it fixed :)
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At maximum effectiveness you still do not get the maximum amount of resources with every swing. My SGR and SR are at something like 6%, meaning that I maxed its effectiveness a long time ago, yet my per-hit amounts range from 1.500kg to 1.667kg. The average is around 1.6kg per successful swing.
From my understanding you should have gotten the same average per success with the 'Alpha' pick (and the 'Alpha' axe is the same) so there is definitely a bug with the one you got. Just to be sure, the one you got from donating should have been called Steel Pick 'Alpha' (I just remembered that these have the full word Alpha after their names while the other stuff just has the letter A) and the description should say something like "Given to Zaelkaer "Allfather" Vampyre." They look exactly like the regular Steel Picks and the Steel Pick NE, so I'd recommend double-checking with the person who bought them just to rule that out.
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At maximum effectiveness you still do not get the maximum amount of resources with every swing. My SGR and SR are at something like 6%, meaning that I maxed its effectiveness a long time ago, yet my per-hit amounts range from 1.500kg to 1.667kg. The average is around 1.6kg per successful swing.
From my understanding you should have gotten the same average per success with the 'Alpha' pick (and the 'Alpha' axe is the same) so there is definitely a bug with the one you got. Just to be sure, the one you got from donating should have been called Steel Pick 'Alpha' (I just remembered that these have the full word Alpha after their names while the other stuff just has the letter A) and the description should say something like "Given to Zaelkaer "Allfather" Vampyre." They look exactly like the regular Steel Picks and the Steel Pick NE, so I'd recommend double-checking with the person who bought them just to rule that out.
Ok lol
Sr on Pick and Axe is 5% falling
Pick is working Fine like avarage 1.6kg on pick.... (Alfa or standart)
Problem is with Axe.. that Normal axe gives 1.6kg of wood but Alfa Axe fro 0.2 til 0.9kg... which in my opinion is a bit wrong :D
Also its just me but at the end of the day i think its still a bit screw up with Alfa pick and axe... it was Given out by devs like a "thank you" for suporting game... And wot u got is Standart Pick lol Honestly i was expecting a small benefit.. Like a bit faster or gathering more kg per pick.. dont thik it would do a big dmg to game cuz we still have endless trees....
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My ticket has been answered. Short story shorter - prealpha (no skills yet) items worked from 70-100%, which was the case with issued items here, they have been changed to a max efficiency of 90-100%, all items "fixed ('A' alpha tag)
Allfather
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Ahhh, I didn't even consider that they might be from before skills were implemented! That explains a lot and I'm glad that they have fixed it... Assuming nobody is still getting tiny returns?
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XXOO to the Dr
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I dont really understand the correlation between the original post
"it seems that the alpha tree axe we got as our alpha freebe doesnt get much wood when it hits the tree. It gets between 0.2 and 0.9kg a hit."
and the conclusion
" prealpha (no skills yet) items worked from 70-100%, which was the case with issued items here, they have been changed to a max efficiency of 90-100%, all items "fixed ('A' alpha tag)"
But i dont need to worry, my problem was solved by changing axes.
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Dr.Butler mentioned that the tree axe in particular had a bug in which it only got around 10-70% (if i remember right, bad memory) , and that it had been fixed as well. The other items worked from around 70-100%, and now all items are at 90-100%. This is only for 'A' items.
Allfather
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Ao Dales ori
I dont really understand the correlation between the original post
"it seems that the alpha tree axe we got as our alpha freebe doesnt get much wood when it hits the tree. It gets between 0.2 and 0.9kg a hit."
and the conclusion
" prealpha (no skills yet) items worked from 70-100%, which was the case with issued items here, they have been changed to a max efficiency of 90-100%, all items "fixed ('A' alpha tag)"
But i dont need to worry, my problem was solved by changing axes.
the free alpha i gave you money axe, not the newbie axe.
Dales original post was concerning the 'Alpha Axe' that were given out for donating as part of the Christmas/New Year bonus's and they have now been fixed.
Cheers
Axle
p.s. Im also assuming The Allfathers posts relate to the rest of these bonus gifts that were not performing at peak effeciency
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I dont really understand the correlation between the original post
"it seems that the alpha tree axe we got as our alpha freebe doesnt get much wood when it hits the tree. It gets between 0.2 and 0.9kg a hit."
and the conclusion
" prealpha (no skills yet) items worked from 70-100%, which was the case with issued items here, they have been changed to a max efficiency of 90-100%, all items "fixed ('A' alpha tag)"
But i dont need to worry, my problem was solved by changing axes.
Based on Allfather's reporting of what he was told in a PM, it looks like they took the old pre-skills-related tools from the database and rebadged them as 'Alpha' or 'A' items. That means that when skills were implemented they created new tools (instead of modifying the previous tools) in the database that required skills and converted all tools that we had in our inventories at that time into these new tools. When they gave us the rebadged tools as bonus items they didn't go back to see what the effectiveness range was until Allfather created a ticket. Then they found that the old Steel Axe was actually bugged to be worse than the rest and fixed all of them.
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Ok, glad everyone is happy.
Zen