Please make "Survival Test (closed section)" available to all and read-only

[Event "Janе" Horizon]

non-invited community members are unable to see the new C210 posts put in there and there are posts from previous revisions (e.g. C209) that are relevant to their ability to test and report bugs.

[dale "dalewj" ofj]

please make a new big area if you do read/only it.

[Serenity "SerenityFireFly" FireFly]

i think the closed forum section should be put to read only for the ones that closed tested and anything C209/210 on wards should be moved into the relevant open forum sections, this would seperate phases of closed test section and public live test being the current one for people to post in.

[Event "Janе" Horizon]

i think the closed forum section should be put to read only for the ones that closed tested and anything C209/210 on wards should be moved into the relevant open forum sections, this would seperate phases of closed test section and public live test being the current one for people to post in.

I would prefer to have everyone removed from the closed section access than have an us-and-them type of access.

The question is: Do any testers actually need need to know about bugs that were raised in pre-C210 revisions?

[Serenity "SerenityFireFly" FireFly]

only ones related to testing is the ones that happened after aws opened that should be in public forum, fact is there is different classes closed and public testers, (its always been that way in AW) just like in future closed testers might see earlier release of updates before public, in order to get most of bugs out, it was previously that way in all past closed tests, i remember getting to see saransk as a closed tester while the older zones were open it was cool

[Teesa "Teesa" Fisher]

Make the "Survival Test (closed section)" read-only to the closed testers which would make less reading for the devs when the same bugs are being reported in the two sections "Survival Test (closed section)" and "Tech Forum".

[Jarod "Brickwit" McBrickerton]

I agree with making the closed section read-only, but only for closed test group members. We were under a form of NDA while performing closed testing, so the information is not supposed to be shared openly.


The bugs that were only seen in closed testing should remain "closed off," but bugs that persist from the closed testing versions should be re-posted as continuing bugs in the new Tech Forum. That way we all know what bugs still exist and nobody makes the mistake of posting new bugs in the closed section.

[Event "Janе" Horizon]

The NDA question (https://my.afterworld.deelogic.net/survival/index.php/topic,31.msg158.html#msg158) was never answered.
The only indication that stuff is not to be public is that the forum is limited to the 140+ players (i.e. a significant proportion of the Alpha population).


IMHO, there is little (nothing?) that is in the closed section that warrants it remaining secret.
Besides as you mentioned a bug in the closed section can be posted in the public section.
In which case it will be difficult (annoying?) for some where we refer to content they have no access/knowledge.

[Jarod "Brickwit" McBrickerton]

My thinking is that there's little use in discussing old bugs that have been fixed and make AWS look buggier than it actually is. Only the bugs that are still there should be viewable by all and it's cleaner to do new posts about those bugs than just open everything up.

[Serenity "SerenityFireFly" FireFly]

My thinking is that there's little use in discussing old bugs that have been fixed and make AWS look buggier than it actually is. Only the bugs that are still there should be viewable by all and it's cleaner to do new posts about those bugs than just open everything up.

how can we make the "Only the bugs that are still there should be viewable by all"

1) move recent ones to open forum?

2) only open them specific topics to people? (how can that be done with it being a closed section under NDA.)

as far as we know the closed test and sections are under NDA,,, so either way we need clarifacation weither the NDA exists for them sections and closed test survival or not...

[Serenity "SerenityFireFly" FireFly]

IMHO, there is little (nothing?) that is in the closed section that warrants it remaining secret.
Besides as you mentioned a bug in the closed section can be posted in the public section.
In which case it will be difficult (annoying?) for some where we refer to content they have no access/knowledge.

a bug is still a bug, closed sections should remain closed and read only till they are needed again... all recent 209/210 bugs etc should be moved to open forum and section put to read only.

[Serenity "SerenityFireFly" FireFly]

I agree with making the closed section read-only, but only for closed test group members. We were under a form of NDA while performing closed testing, so the information is not supposed to be shared openly.


The bugs that were only seen in closed testing should remain "closed off," but bugs that persist from the closed testing versions should be re-posted as continuing bugs in the new Tech Forum. That way we all know what bugs still exist and nobody makes the mistake of posting new bugs in the closed section.

 i agree + hadnt seen this post till now.

[Event "Janе" Horizon]

My thinking is that there's little use in discussing old bugs that have been fixed and make AWS look buggier than it actually is. Only the bugs that are still there should be viewable by all and it's cleaner to do new posts about those bugs than just open everything up.

Indeed - there are bugs that are closed - and these could stay out of sight.
This though means DL need to weed these out ... the effort would not justify the rewards.
So it would be better to just open it up.
Definitely needs to be read-only.