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When are we having a proper update?
« on: November 23, 2014, 03:02:45 pm »
When is the next update scheduled to happen? I mean, a PROPER update. You know, one that actually fixes the bugs that have been pestering us for the last couple of months?
Is there any roadmap?
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Re: When are we having a proper update?
« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2014, 09:46:47 am »
When you say "proper", what do you mean?
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Re: When are we having a proper update?
« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2014, 02:24:50 pm »
When you say "proper", what do you mean?
I think the OP already explained what he meant by proper, let me quote that part...
You know, one that actually fixes the bugs that have been pestering us for the last couple of months?
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Re: When are we having a proper update?
« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2014, 08:32:18 pm »
When you say "proper", what do you mean?
i think he means when can we relog without becoming noobot, pick rocks outside nu, hunt/heal with normal dmg, find water in loot, and turn in loot so we can unlock skills.

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Re: When are we having a proper update?
« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2014, 09:36:53 pm »
So it's not a "proper" update unless it fixes every single bug we're reporting? If so, would you vote for them to not push any updates until this is done or would incremental updates that fix some of the issues (but not all of them) be acceptable to you?

The latter is basically what has been happening so far, though maybe not as cleanly as anyone has hoped for. Which is why I asked the first question.
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Re: When are we having a proper update?
« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2014, 09:41:12 pm »
When you say "proper", what do you mean?
i think he means when can we relog without becoming noobot, pick rocks outside nu, hunt/heal with normal dmg, find water in loot, and turn in loot so we can unlock skills.

..or when this "when" become an actually a "proper" statement witch is ...said and done, nothing else, no interpretation, no delay, just pure word kept and result delivered

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Re: When are we having a proper update?
« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2014, 11:25:47 pm »
i do not think there is a 'roadmap' for bug fixes
There may be one for enhancements.

IMHO, the OP is asking about progress on bug fixes and an indication of the release date of these fixes.
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Re: When are we having a proper update?
« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2014, 09:25:25 am »
So it's not a "proper" update unless it fixes every single bug we're reporting? If so, would you vote for them to not push any updates until this is done or would incremental updates that fix some of the issues (but not all of them) be acceptable to you?

The latter is basically what has been happening so far, though maybe not as cleanly as anyone has hoped for. Which is why I asked the first question.
I was just pointing out to the staff member that his question was already answered in the OP, when i quoted them both above ;)

Now to answer your question:
For me personally i would vote for frequently done small bug fixes, that address single bugs at a time.
As a programmer myself i know it is practically impossible to fix all bugs at once with a single patch, because a fix for one bug might introduce another unforeseen bug.
When patched this way, on a fairly frequent schedule, it will also be possible to get better feedback on the fixes and eventual new bugs the patch introduced.
It will also show the comunity that the developers are indeed working on bugs instead of being busy with their other life issues...
But i say it again with emphasis, it should be done frequently preferably on a daily or at least weekly basis...
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Re: When are we having a proper update?
« Reply #8 on: November 25, 2014, 12:34:32 pm »

But i say it again with emphasis, it should be done frequently preferably on a daily or at least weekly basis...

They call those daily builds now don't they
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Re: When are we having a proper update?
« Reply #9 on: November 25, 2014, 09:18:19 pm »
well, i don't think i need to explain myself on the meaning of "proper". we need stability on the basic functions to properly test what needs to be tested.... this is not happening now.
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Re: When are we having a proper update?
« Reply #10 on: November 25, 2014, 09:50:26 pm »
My opinion on updates is the same as yours TriMoon, and I'm pretty sure it's the same opinion that most of us have. It's just a shame that the bug fix updates are so few and far between and that several of the biggest bugs from recent times have been resurrected after the C300 update and some of the attempts to fix other bugs.

My assumption about why they're so infrequent is that even with outside funding, the dev team has remained very small. As we've seen from a few forum posts, some of the original devs have left the game (though we don't know if those people are gone permanently and completely), which means that the current team members have to start from ground zero to understand what custom code has gone into the game and the T3D engine before they have as good a grasp as possible and are more capable of fixing the bugs. I think this point gets forgotten around here sometimes and I hope that this reminder will help ease people's frustrations over the slow progress. Still, the progress over the past few months has been greater than all of the prior year combined!
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Re: When are we having a proper update?
« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2014, 11:58:17 am »

But i say it again with emphasis, it should be done frequently preferably on a daily or at least weekly basis...

They call those daily builds now don't they
I wasn't really talking about automated builds that are run daily, i meant real code changes that are pushed out to the public ;)
Although "nightly builds", eg what you call daily builds, that include even the smallest comment changes in the source code would be great to increase the involvement and trust of the community :)
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Re: When are we having a proper update?
« Reply #12 on: November 26, 2014, 01:26:21 pm »

But i say it again with emphasis, it should be done frequently preferably on a daily or at least weekly basis...

They call those daily builds now don't they
I wasn't really talking about automated builds that are run daily, i meant real code changes that are pushed out to the public ;)
Although "nightly builds", eg what you call daily builds, that include even the smallest comment changes in the source code would be great to increase the involvement and trust of the community :)
or weekly....
or monthly....
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Re: When are we having a proper update?
« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2014, 02:59:14 pm »
Обращаюсь к разработчикам. Когда будут хоть какие то новости? Что то всё окончательно затихло, как будто про игру забыли и ничего не происходит. Вы много чего обещали но в итоге сейчас мы имеем игру в которую просто невозможно стало играть. Возможно сейчас много ошибок которые вы исправляете, но молчать и не давать людям информации это нехорошо...
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Re: When are we having a proper update?
« Reply #14 on: December 09, 2014, 07:01:51 pm »
Обращаюсь к разработчикам. Когда будут хоть какие то новости? Что то всё окончательно затихло, как будто про игру забыли и ничего не происходит. Вы много чего обещали но в итоге сейчас мы имеем игру в которую просто невозможно стало играть. Возможно сейчас много ошибок которые вы исправляете, но молчать и не давать людям информации это нехорошо...

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