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Обращение к игрокам! Allocution to players!
« on: September 30, 2013, 03:22:33 pm »

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С большим удивлением обнаружил, что дистрибутив игры отсутствует на популярных трекерах.
Поэтому, большая просьба к тем, кто неравнодушен к судьбе AWS - выложите, пожалуйста, игру на трекерах, которые знаете.
Я сам ни разу ничего не выкладывал, поэтому думаю это лучше, быстрее и красивее получится у более опытных релизеров.  Если никто не выложит, тогда попробую разобраться на выходных с трекерами сам. Мне не понятно, почему этого не сделали сами разработчики...
Трекеры, которые я знаю и использую-
rutracker.org и rutor.org.


P.S. Я так и не понял - закрыта сейчас регистрация для новичков или нет. Отпишитесь, пожалуйста, кто в курсе. Если закрыта, то тогда наверное не надо выкладывать...


Также просьба к разработчикам как-то прокомментировать ситуацию. Игроки хотят знать новости. Даже если нет новостей - сообщите об этом, это уже будет хоть какой-то новостью. Мы бы хотели знать ваши планы по поводу игры!!!




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With great wonder i found that there is no distributive of the game on popular russian torrents. I think it's so easy for devs to do it and by that increase online of the game. I don't know about foreign popular torrents, does AWS present on them? If not, i suggest to do it, because thousands of players play in many MMO shit games and simply don't know about AWS. Advertising of the game is still around 0. Sadly...


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Re: Обращение к игрокам! Allocution to players!
« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2013, 06:41:46 pm »
Andrei, there is no point in advertising a game that cannot deliver at this moment. The game is on life support with cerebral hypoxia with little chances to recover. The machines are keeping the game alive until the family decides to pull the plug XS
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Re: Обращение к игрокам! Allocution to players!
« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2013, 08:29:22 pm »
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Andrei, there is no point in advertising a game that cannot deliver at this moment. The game is on life support with cerebral hypoxia with little chances to recover. The machines are keeping the game alive until the family decides to pull the plug XS


Agree. But the reason of it is almost no online and donation. And lazyness or maybe nescience of subject of devs - because there are many free instruments to support advertising.
They can name fairly the game like Beta Version, trying telling the truth and never avoid the dialog with players.


Using simply free ad can recover AWS, silence from devs will kill it! >:(

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« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2013, 11:51:17 pm »
If you want to see what a well-advertised, indie-developed, player/crowd-funded game can be just watch this video: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/cig/star-citizen. Of course, the devs of Star Citizen have a well-known main person that AWS doesn't have, but even without that AWS could have been in a MUCH better place right now with the same kind of push.
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« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2013, 10:52:08 am »
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but even without that AWS could have been in a MUCH better place right now with the same kind of push.


Totally agree! AWS HAVE to be a much better place than right now. The problem of no finance is not bad-looking avatars or bugs - the main problem is strange attitude of devs to PR of the project. Potential players and donators simply don't know about this game and it streights! Simple PR with no expences can improve the situation very quikly.


I have a question to Homo "Evangelist" Ludens - why can't you understand this simple basics with your MBA degree?  :o
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« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2013, 01:26:33 pm »
im not going to advertise a game that simply doesn't produce a good game for newcomers.  IF the newcomer lands and stuff were fixed , I and the people who I have talked to would have follow thru with our advertising and such that we had planned.  But it was waiting for the newcomer section to get fixed and it never was...
advertising a bad product is worse then not advertising it.  First rule of business. 
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« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2013, 01:59:52 pm »
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advertising a bad product is worse then not advertising it.  First rule of business.


It's not a bad product. Name it a Beta Version like it is in real and simply tell the world about it.
The problem of no finance is because of:


  • no new players (potential donators),
  • no communication with old players (who can donate if they have the whole understanding of what devs do and plan to do),
  • no investors, because they see no online too.
AWA was not too bad project, did you see any ad then, Dale???

I don't know about what business rule comes first or second, doesn't matter in fact. I know the main rule of business - do what you have to do and never give up. Do something, ad in this stage is better than to wait untill money will fall in your pockets from sky.

As i told, it's not a bad project, it's too raw. I don't say ad will help to relise the game 100%, but it may help.

It's better to do something than not to do anything. The situation with AWS will not be worse than atm.
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« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2013, 03:24:43 pm »
Dale's talking about players advertising AWS, not the devs. Players advertise by telling their friends "Try this great game, it's a lot of fun!" and not wanting to tell your friends about a game that makes it difficult to begin enjoying from the start is perfectly understandable to me. It's for this same reason that I've had to tell my friends "It's a fun game, but there's work to be done and it seems to be stalled right now." That's not what I'd like to tell them, but I don't want to lie to my friends or get people to try it when they won't end up happy.

The devs should be advertising this as much as possible in as many methods as possible though. Unfortunately they haven't truly advertised it at all from what I can tell. The closest to advertising they've done is submit a page to MMORPG.com (which is flooded with competition and isn't exactly a household name anyway) and a Facebook page that includes the same information as the AW home page. If there's anything else, it's either so well hidden that I haven't found it or so minimal that I've forgotten all about it. The whole situation is shameful and saddening, but it doesn't have to stay that way.
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« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2013, 03:11:04 am »
Promotion of the game sounds a reasonable suggestion when the game features gets back to AW Alpha level and New player registration is turned back on.

Even if Dedicated Logic does not feel the need for promotion themselves - I see nothing in the PA that stops players from constructively promoting Survival.
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« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2013, 08:29:42 am »

Homo "Evangelist" Ludenis was responsible for finding investors and communicating with the playerbase. The communication part worked ok for a while, but after 1st (unsuccessful) attempt to find investors it stopped. Conclusion - he is not working for DL team any more.


New players can't join the game. What is impossible can't be advertised. The decision to disable new account creation was made for a reason. The game is not ready. If it will be ready sometimes in the future then we could discuss how it should be advertised.
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« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2013, 09:01:08 am »
I don't know about work of Evangelist of coarse, but he still reads the forum.

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New players can't join the game.


I thought it was temporarly and regisration is available now.

@Jane. Are you sure the game features will get back to AWA? I see no work of devs now, of coarse i'll be happy to be wrong with that. With placing game on torrents and having more online the chance of survival (now i understand the true meaning of the game's name ::) ) of AWS can appear. With open registration of coarse.
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« Reply #11 on: October 02, 2013, 10:07:43 am »
I don't know about work of Evangelist of coarse, but he still reads the forum.

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New players can't join the game.

I thought it was temporarly and regisration is available now.

@Jane. Are you sure the game features will get back to AWA? I see no work of devs now, of coarse i'll be happy to be wrong with that. With placing game on torrents and having more online the chance of survival (now i understand the true meaning of the game's name ::) ) of AWS can appear. With open registration of coarse.
Registration is still unavailable: https://my.afterworld.deelogic.net/
Which I see as a good thing - to me it says 'we know the game is not ready for newcomers'.

I am confident that the game will have almost all of AWA features that are currently broken and/or missing from AWS ... eventually ... possibly starting with the fixing Newcomer activities. However, these will not replace the new features AWS has already set in motion (e.g. clones & PVP).
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