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Offline Event "Janе" Horizon

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Re: Suggestion online webshop
« Reply #15 on: December 15, 2012, 10:52:48 pm »
Quote from: Serenity "SerenityFireFly" FireFly on December 15, 2012, 11:09:13 am
the idea was a seperate currency to be spent in shop, ones the devs would make revenue off and people would have to purchase this currency seperate from game, survival points would not work as how they are earned is not relevant to a seperate currency for online web shop (which people would have to pay cash to get, this way it would make revenue for devs while people can buy the specific thing they want)
Currently Survival Points are something you cannot spend (they can only be accumulated by donating, spending AWD and a few other other activities). So these seem to be good candidates for an online shop.
In addition - as you also get Survival Points for spending AWD - those that perform content generating activities get a double bonus as they will get Survival Points for both donating and spending.


Using Survival Points as a currency would give players multiple paths to get these valuable points - buy them online, donate, spend AWD, get SAU globals.


This would be more versatile and appeal to more players - don't you agree?
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Re: Suggestion online webshop
« Reply #16 on: December 15, 2012, 10:58:07 pm »
Quote from: Event "Singularity" Horizon on December 15, 2012, 10:52:48 pm
Quote from: Serenity "SerenityFireFly" FireFly on December 15, 2012, 11:09:13 am
the idea was a seperate currency to be spent in shop, ones the devs would make revenue off and people would have to purchase this currency seperate from game, survival points would not work as how they are earned is not relevant to a seperate currency for online web shop (which people would have to pay cash to get, this way it would make revenue for devs while people can buy the specific thing they want)
Currently Survival Points are something you cannot spend (they can only be accumulated by donating, spending AWD and a few other other activities). So these seem to be good candidates for an online shop.
In addition - as you also get Survival Points for spending AWD - those that perform content generating activities get a double bonus as some of they will get SP for both donating and spending.


This then would give players multiple paths to get these valuable points - buy them online, donate, spend AWD, get SAU globals.


This would be more versatile and appeal to more players - don't you agree?

no i don't agree, survival points are worthless.. theres no use to them


A separate currency for a web shop such as AW Coins, that are purchased by debit/credit/pay-pal would be more worth it as it sets the base and is similar to others games ways off doing it which makes it more easier for people to know what to do and how to use a web shop. Why change successful ways of doing it when it works really good for other games.... I've seen other games gain large profit of web shops and large revenue separate from game... people pay/donate for awd... people can pay for web shop currency to get things they cant or hard to get things from game.
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Re: Suggestion online webshop
« Reply #17 on: December 15, 2012, 11:59:20 pm »
Quote from: Serenity "SerenityFireFly" FireFly on December 15, 2012, 10:58:07 pm
Quote from: Event "Singularity" Horizon on December 15, 2012, 10:52:48 pm
Quote from: Serenity "SerenityFireFly" FireFly on December 15, 2012, 11:09:13 am
the idea was a seperate currency to be spent in shop, ones the devs would make revenue off and people would have to purchase this currency seperate from game, survival points would not work as how they are earned is not relevant to a seperate currency for online web shop (which people would have to pay cash to get, this way it would make revenue for devs while people can buy the specific thing they want)
Currently Survival Points are something you cannot spend (they can only be accumulated by donating, spending AWD and a few other other activities). So these seem to be good candidates for an online shop.
In addition - as you also get Survival Points for spending AWD - those that perform content generating activities get a double bonus as some of they will get SP for both donating and spending.


This then would give players multiple paths to get these valuable points - buy them online, donate, spend AWD, get SAU globals.


This would be more versatile and appeal to more players - don't you agree?

no i don't agree, survival points are worthless.. theres no use to them


A separate currency for a web shop such as AW Coins, that are purchased by debit/credit/pay-pal would be more worth it as it sets the base and is similar to others games ways off doing it which makes it more easier for people to know what to do and how to use a web shop. Why change successful ways of doing it when it works really good for other games.... I've seen other games gain large profit of web shops and large revenue separate from game... people pay/donate for awd... people can pay for web shop currency to get things they cant or hard to get things from game.
So you are saying Dedicated Logic put in Survival Points in for no particular reason (aka worthless).
I presume none of the games you have seen have  <game> points to buy and spend.
We'll have to wait and see.
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Re: Suggestion online webshop
« Reply #18 on: December 20, 2012, 06:50:35 am »
I'd like to see a method of directly purchasing items too. I'm sure that there is a plan in place for the use of Survival Points, but I don't think they should be the only way to purchase certain items. Maybe SuP (short for Survival Points - SP was already taken by Skill Points) will be worth a multiple of some other form of direct-purchase "coins?"
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Re: Suggestion online webshop
« Reply #19 on: December 20, 2012, 09:09:54 am »
Whatever happens the game always has to remain balanced, no matter what. Any direct outside influence that is not limited/controlled in any way is potentially dangerous.
Raising the funds to support the game development is good but if this destroys the whole game for all other players it's like jumping out of the frying pan and into the fire... :)

Survival Points can't be directly purchased, they come only as a "side effect" of donating - this helps to "level it down" a bit and avoid too dramatic and unreasonable effects... looks like a perfect candidate for the web shop currency (or for any other system that allows purchasing certain items).
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Re: Suggestion online webshop
« Reply #20 on: January 09, 2013, 07:25:33 am »
Why need to make things harder? What you said about webshop as a way to make more money for devs can be good but can be bad too. I think money you get from webshop is taxed different than money they get from "donating" as it is now. My two cents is: if they intend to make something like a webshop, make it ingame. And use awd as curency. For even greater simplicity they can implement that when they bring us the TT vendor (aka swamp WO). He can have some rare to find minerals or mfp to sell or armors or just luxury stuff, like the cats :D. The problem is the balancing. If you can buy there best weapons/armors ingame at a reasonable cost there will be no incentive for crafters to spend a lot of their awd to raise skills to make weapons/armors.
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Re: Suggestion online webshop
« Reply #21 on: March 12, 2013, 03:15:53 pm »
Quote from: Alex "NQ" Gold on December 15, 2012, 09:28:05 am
"Singularity так это проблема отсутствия игроков и конкуренции нету от того и цены крутят.Тут надо онлайн повышать -)Предлагаю сделать реферальную систему за привлечения новых игроков  будет выдаваться бонус.Будет более действенно.Игроки будут заинтересованы в привлечении новых игроков.А вместо бонуса будут единицы которые можно будет использовать в магазине. Ато совсем не то будет ..деньги кинул и купил проблем нет ты герой.Вот моя точка зрения-)
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“Singularity - well this problem due to low player base and lack of competition, thus prices are too high. Online (player base) should be higher. I suggest making referral system for attracting new players. Inviters will receive some bonus. This will work. Players will be interested to attract new players. Or, instead of bonus there will be points that can be used in shop. It will not be fair the other way…one donates, buys and no problems you are a hero. This my opinion”
I hope I got it as close as possible.
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