AfterWorld Survival Forum

Survival (like many games) are male dominated.
I believe the Armour ASP process make players choose whether invest time and effort making Male armor ASP or Female armor ASP.
The male domination of the game results in female Avatars being disadvantaged, less armor on market, fewer Crafters willing to invest the effort in female armor.


Suggestion:
Either make all ASPs unisex (including the ones currently in the game) and allow the Armor gender to be selected at manufacture;
Or make all ASPs unisex (including the ones currently in the game) and make Armor manufactured unisex (though the look should  still be the male / female one once equipped).


Alternately, allow a player to choose their gender during the travelbot-to-clone process.

you can currently select to either make male or female from your armour asp as u make they are not set to male or female

Cheers

Axle

Thanks for all your replies.
I had forgotten about the gender choice during the armor assembly process.


So the suggestion is now to have the armor assembly process to produce unisex armor (i.e. remove the gender selection) - allowing the market to have a single armor tab per piece of armor (instead of Harness (M), Harness (F) - just have Harness).


The look of the armor when equipped is the same as now (i.e. internally the armor can still have the (M) (F) tag - they just have the same inventory icon)


This would also help player game play - a female player can lend her armor to a male player when required.

It is more about another glass ceiling.
Too RL behavior IMHO.

Unisex clothes that makes sense (like your examples, Dainzin) would be great additions. The only big differences between the genders might be height, shoulder width, and other "large-scale" measurements, but those differences exist between avatars of the same gender as well (in the real world, anyway).

Armor CDs do not specify M or F, they are all "unisex" because you choose the gender (as well as the color scheme/model) of the crafted item at the time of crafting. I see your point about helmets not being gender-specific for the same reasons I mentioned about cloths - the only differences are with overall measurements which can also be found within each gender. They are currently M or F only, just like arm guards, gloves, hip guards, knee guards, and boots. Of all armor parts (and clothing too), only the harness (and shirt/jacket) has true anatomical differences between males and females so I'd support the idea of only those parts being gender-specific.

However all of this is based on how avatars look right now. We're told there will be an entirely new and much more configurable avatar creation process in the (hopefully) near future. At that point there could be some very distinct differences between males and females in all body parts so until that time comes I'm going to hold off on pushing for any changes to clothing and armor (other than more variety, of course!).

Is Survival want to be a hard-core survival game? From this angle it is closer to hard-core to have gender separated armor vs unisex, just not to make our lifes easy.
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What related to gaming experience and craft/market system. I believe female chars/playes are being in disadvantage now, and something needs to be done.
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i play an F ava and dont feel disadvantaged at all.
if i craft an armor, i simply select "F".

but if aw should be hard core, the M avas dont have to look hardcore in leather

Quote from: YesKing "Irie" Rasta on March 12, 2013, 07:57:33 pm

Quote from: Rakta "Dainzin" Sadaksari on March 12, 2013, 02:21:19 pm

Is Survival want to be a hard-core survival game? From this angle it is closer to hard-core to have gender separated armor vs unisex, just not to make our lifes easy.
...
What related to gaming experience and craft/market system. I believe female chars/playes are being in disadvantage now, and something needs to be done.
...

 
i play an F ava and dont feel disadvantaged at all.
if i craft an armor, i simply select "F".

but if aw should be hard core, the M avas dont have to look hardcore in leather

Any Male wearing Leather armor should be shot on site!!  LOL 
Leather armor is the most effimate clothing or armor in game, if you want to make a statement that you're a cross-dresser then just wear leather armor. Ha ha ha.

Feel free to shoot at me if you like. Btw as far as i know it's not armor, it's clothing. I wouldn't mind if the male leather was a little more manly looking though, a tad less shine and a little less tight but rather more buff looking. This is a cosmetic appearance that the devs could do when they update clothes (if they will) and armors (when they will, i believe they were planning to at some point).

Allfather

Personally id not like the leathers changed so much because its old school iv had my set since Kamchatsk 2006 , maybe the male leather shorts could be ditched they are a little too camp,im happy with my long ones though