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First inital thoughts mining
« on: March 08, 2013, 12:51:01 am »
I write this on my third find (one third try btw).   OK  here are my thoughts, they might change later, but it is always bst to have a good first impression.
1 - New format, you cant claim it till you find it.  Fine.
2- aiming way up in the air so i dont hurt myself.  i dont know.  problem is simple mining means i have to change my avas angle every time i try.  Maybe making the finder a bit more powerful or such so the ava doesnt have to move to stay out of the range of the bomb.
3- bomb hurts  THANK YOU!  note point above thou.  I hope bomb can hurt mobs too.
4-finding the green dot.  As a professional miner this will get old very fast.  I seem to have to be way to close to trigger it.  I really cant tell where it is and I havent even tried the forest yet.  no direction no nothing except a blinking dot.  Why cant there be a green light (small as ever) on the ground.  when u claim it the concrete bot shows up and created your extractors pad.  I cant seeme spending six hours a day throwing a beer can at the screen trying to find something.  Mining is enjoyable, this would make it like pvp.
my first thoughts..  I will give my after the weekend thoughts also.
 
 
 
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Re: First inital thoughts mining
« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2013, 08:45:38 am »
1. drilling process is soo slow now, toke me ages to finish a small 1,6kg of some v rare stone ( 82 scan freq) ~ 25 mins or more, and i had to reactivate 3 times the driller
2. using the bombing way on someone is soo damn fum, is more dmg than whit the zb8 :D ...and why? well simply just cause the bomb give u around 27 dmg when detonate, and the extra 37 dmg is from impact , u will fly like a bird, crazy and fun tho....these r in some normal circumstances ( if u r opon a hill and u fall at bottom no need zb11 anymore)..... and to NOTE one more thing NO MATTER WHAT PvP lvl is u can increase this dmg and i m sure r some good samaritans who cant hold themselfs from destroy someone's mining sessions and this just cause when u r about to find something he's bombing u out...and i m not thinking on hunting sessions when u r healing yourself cause is a big Bugor kid opon your arse ( those r the extreme example just to point out something)
3. well is way to crazy searching around for something u already found once, to be honest i was talked whit dale few times for the sick of mining days, and we said that the mining should be shorter in finding no need to be claimed once u have found it, but it seems the game turn on the complicated way nor the simple one, and i m saying this from one reason, is anyhow soo slow this process of mining ,
- scan 7-10 times in a row on a single spot
- fight whit 2-3 mobs( eventualy)
- find the crazy claim
- claim it
- go and place the driller
- get back for another 1-2scanings
- get back for the driller
..................resould 1,7 kg of Leem ..cool huh? and 3 points of exelent SAU cause for Nr4
4. we spend allot money on this scanners/driller/bombs/batteryes, and we get instead after each "Nothing was found" msg not a single SAU, tbh 1 point of SAU dont hurts for each scan, i mean cmon how many can i drop on one hour of mining?
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Re: First inital thoughts mining
« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2013, 10:12:33 am »
"Now you need to find a Spawn in order to claim it"

spawn (/spôn/)
Verb (of a fish, frog, mollusk, crustacean, etc.) Release or deposit eggs.
Noun The eggs of fish, frogs, etc.
Synonyms
verb.     breed
noun.     roe - caviar

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Re: First inital thoughts mining
« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2013, 11:10:16 am »
"Now you need to find the source in order to claim it" - maybe?
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Re: First inital thoughts mining
« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2013, 11:13:50 am »
I've noticed (with my 114 scanners) that i only find claims in one spot from the first shot!
Even if i shoot 10 times, the result was always the same, nothing.


So maybe things in mining are not as they used to be!
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Re: First inital thoughts mining
« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2013, 11:23:40 am »
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I've noticed (with my 114 scanners) that i only find claims in one spot from the first shot![/size]Even if i shoot 10 times, the result was always the same, nothing.



I had the same yesterday. Always found sollium or sometimes loox the first shoot.
But then it dissapeared and the every time i tried i found nothing with my 114 scanner.
Tried about 150 times near Saransk, road to Q1, Saransk W post.
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Re: First inital thoughts mining
« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2013, 12:55:40 pm »
The problem seems to be some certain finds.  The first one i had today is not extracting.  Each time i puit a findero n it i get 0.001 and thats it.  Note the errors on the screenie when i looked at the finder.
after about 4 attempts i was able to pull it out.
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Re: First inital thoughts mining
« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2013, 04:22:54 pm »
Im having no problems finding plenty of claims,seems sau rate is better now )BUT extractor time
and RL time don't match. Takes 3X real time as compared to extract time to pull a claim. Not good
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Re: First inital thoughts mining
« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2013, 05:16:06 pm »
i logged out, shoveled 12 inches of snow from my driveway, had lunch, came back and still my extractor is working on this find.
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Re: First inital thoughts mining
« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2013, 03:16:34 am »
i logged out, shoveled 12 inches of snow from my driveway, had lunch, came back and still my extractor is working on this find.
They have pop up sprinklers for when its dry, why not pop up gas burners for when it snows.
 
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Re: First inital thoughts mining
« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2013, 04:11:07 am »
My thoughts...
1) Yay, they brought UG finally!
2) The 'Spawn' thing threw me off.
3) Longer times for extraction..ok within reason. Not reasonable in my opinion - Took a bit over 2 hours for extraction of my first and so far only claim.
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Re: First inital thoughts mining
« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2013, 04:53:37 am »
Extraction times that long just HAVE TO be a bug and I hope they fix it soon!

Still, it's better to have underground mining with a bug than not UGM at all. 8-)
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Re: First inital thoughts mining
« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2013, 05:19:33 am »
Still, it's better to have underground mining with a bug than not UGM at all. 8-)
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Re: First inital thoughts mining
« Reply #13 on: April 18, 2013, 01:50:54 pm »
OK, the extracting time is fixed now and i took a time to test UG mining myself.
First impression, this is the best mining system i have ever seen in any game. I'm not really a miner, never was in any game,  more like casual sunday-miner but i thought i share what i've found out so far in this field.


The new feature, finding the claims took me a while to figure out but when i got the hang of it, i realized it's like little 2D (or even 3D if u mining on the hillside) mind-game. Pretty soon you can calculate the shortest route to the claim on the fly. This means an experienced miner can get more resources faster - and it's not even (ingame) skill based! Amazing achievement, do you realize what are the implications?
It'll take some time before the gaming community will realize what AWS has achieved here, but sooner or later the info will spread and die-hard miners will come to see it.


There's another new thing with mining. When the 1st one deals with 2D/3D space, the 2nd one is all about time. At 1st we were thinking those server waves are bug, that it wasn't intended that way. However, the more i learn about it the more i get this feeling - what if it's all intentional, working as intended? If so, this rabbit hole goes very deep indeed... ;)


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Re: First inital thoughts mining
« Reply #14 on: April 18, 2013, 02:44:37 pm »
There are still many problems with ug mining.  :(


1. I don't know about fixing a problem with extracting time simply because my extractors stop themselfs very often and i can't understand the real time spending on extracting.


2. I found some of my extractors stopping and having no resourses in containers, but when i detached them - there were no more claims. So resourses were lost.
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