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Price Check pene fire avoids
« on: March 21, 2013, 07:40:03 am »
What those cost nowdays? Any ideas?
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Re: Price Check pene fire avoids
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2013, 02:40:34 pm »
According to Allfather's Guide to Market Prices thread penetration avoidance (that always sounds funny to me!) goes for 20-30 AWD for a 1% SNI. There is no price listed for burn avoidance (I think that's what you mean by "fire") but it tends to be much more expensive from what I've seen listed in the Market.
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Re: Price Check pene fire avoids
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2013, 03:39:16 pm »
I don't know sellers that sell pen avoid less then 30/1%. So i think current price is 30-40/1%.
Burn avoid is cheaper - 10-20/1%.
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Re: Price Check pene fire avoids
« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2013, 11:04:45 pm »
Are there any mobs that give Penetration or Burn avoidance currently in the game?
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Re: Price Check pene fire avoids
« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2013, 11:55:09 pm »
Are there any mobs that give Penetration or Burn avoidance currently in the game?

No.

But if you want to argue that this changes the value of the skills i disagree, since the mobs will be available in the future.
Supply effects price, Demand effects price, but the real value comes from how easy/difficult/time-consuming it is to get something. All values made by players for things that don't have a price tag, are just that though, player-made prices. The only thing that would drive up the price of something is if player A had something that at minimum both Player B and Player C wanted.

To rephrase all that, supply and demand does effect prices. But i see this as temporarily, since the supply and demand will change later.
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Re: Price Check pene fire avoids
« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2013, 01:43:06 am »
Are there any mobs that give Penetration or Burn avoidance currently in the game?

No.

But if you want to argue that this changes the value of the skills i disagree, since the mobs will be available in the future.
Supply effects price, Demand effects price, but the real value comes from how easy/difficult/time-consuming it is to get something. All values made by players for things that don't have a price tag, are just that though, player-made prices. The only thing that would drive up the price of something is if player A had something that at minimum both Player B and Player C wanted.

To rephrase all that, supply and demand does effect prices. But i see this as temporarily, since the supply and demand will change later.
Uncertainty tends effect price.
There is no way to tell if DL will make these skills obtainable in the same quantities as in Alpha.
The ease of collection has a large impact on price.
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Re: Price Check pene fire avoids
« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2013, 10:02:40 pm »
But if you want to argue that this changes the value of the skills i disagree, since the mobs will be available in the future.
The ease of collection has a large impact on price.
Pen, burn, and frag avoids are higher than the rest because there have only been a handful of mobs to skill on and they were not low-damage mobs so it required armor to gain those avoids (especially for burn). Higher cost to collect the skills results in higher sell pricing and the opposite for easy-to-gain avoids like cut, impact, and stab. Currently there are no mobs at all that do burn, frag, or pen damage (unless I'm forgetting something) so I would expect those SNIs to be more expensive now than ever.

On the other hand, we are very much in a temporary state of few available mobs and I expect that all avoids will be equally easy to collect at some point in the future. Nothing I've seen in AW leads me to believe that the devs want anything to be unbalanced in any way, including the ability to collect any single basic skill like avoidances.
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Re: Price Check pene fire avoids
« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2013, 01:48:00 pm »
I suspect most people won't sell a resource while it's nonrenewable, just because of uncertainty,and most people wont buy that resource during this time even if offered, if its at a higher price, because they would rather wait until it becomes renewable because then prices will go down (probably)
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Re: Price Check pene fire avoids
« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2013, 10:10:42 pm »
That would make the most sense to you and me, but to some people it's an opportunity to try to make more money than usual or to bulk up on a skill when others can't afford to.
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Re: Price Check pene fire avoids
« Reply #9 on: March 27, 2013, 11:45:09 pm »
The last paragraph of page 15 of the tutorial says it quite well (https://my.afterworld.deelogic.net/survival/newcomers-corner/first-task-newcomer-tutorial/).
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