Author Topic: old or new account selection (Read 4778 times)

cyber "killerr" bryan · « **on:** February 25, 2013, 08:13:54 pm »

Hey everyone

. Back in April 2010 i created an account and could not figure out how to work the game and stoped playing after a few days. I recently heard news of the game upgrading from its previous version and decided to come back and give it another try. The problem came when i decided that i wanted to use my old account but could not remember it or the email i used. I made a new account after about a day of looking and not finding info on what my old account was called. Now going through some old files i had today i found the email i had used to register my old account and was able to recover my old Afterworld username. Now my question is will it be worth it to go back to my old account instead of just going with the one i just made due to the trouble explained above ? Will my old avatar have any differences from the new one like stronger skill, old items, rare old version items, more clones etc ? I only played before with my old avatar like two days and also like two days for my new one. Im just trying to make the best choice, thanks in advance for the help.

dale "dalewj" ofj · « **Reply #1 on:** February 25, 2013, 08:28:37 pm »

If you were jsut whacking rocks you might loose a little skill but thats about it. You should at least make a helpdesk ticket (top of forum) and tell the devs to delete the old account. That way you wont break the 2 account rule.

good luck! And if you cant figure it out this time ask here or anyone in game we can help you.

cyber "killerr" bryan · « **Reply #2 on:** February 25, 2013, 10:28:24 pm »

Quote from: dale "dalewj" ofj on February 25, 2013, 08:28:37 pm

If you were jsut whacking rocks you might loose a little skill but thats about it. You should at least make a helpdesk ticket (top of forum) and tell the devs to delete the old account. That way you wont break the 2 account rule.

good luck! And if you cant figure it out this time ask here or anyone in game we can help you.

Thanks for the help, i think i still need more info though. I read somewhere here on the forums that older members started with more clones or something so there may be more benefits like that for older accounts even at the start. Maybe there are items or skill difference if there is a clone start difference. I made the new account when it was impossible to even delete the old due to lack of info. I will not play on either accounts until i get more info and then delete one of my choosing once the info is had.

Event "Janе" Horizon · « **Reply #3 on:** February 25, 2013, 11:36:07 pm »

Suggestions:

If you were a citizen in the old game - then use your old account.

Saves you from needing to get 100 pnotes / pay 100 AWD to become a citizen
You should have accumulated a number of Survival Points
Use of Survival Points are not known yet
You will have some skills

If you want to collect more clones - the use your new account

You get 100 clones (like citizens) howeveou wilr, every outpost you visit you get an extra 50 clones
There are 5 outposts to visit - so you will get an additional 250 clones
Note: you could also get the same number of extra clones by picking stones for 12 hours as a citizen)
You will need to go through the effort of becoming a Citizen

If you were a Newcomer in both games - choose either

Old: you may have picks / stones in inventory
New: if you went through the Tutorial - you will have a pick, weapon and HK (non-skill giving types)

Don "Roberto" Roberto · « **Reply #4 on:** February 26, 2013, 01:34:30 am »

I was in exactly the same situation
use old account, as other suggested you may still have some items/ ores/ skills and you don`t have to pay to become a citizen
you can still do the tutorial, I did it and I suggest you to do it too, I also got 100 clones
if you want top start by picking ores, use the steel pick NE (new edition) only in the begining, you don`t get skills but you pick VERY fast, wich allows you to start a cycle of picking/selling ores/buying regular steel picks wich you`ll repeat after that.
use Jane`s excellent thread for ores location:
https://my.afterworld.deelogic.net/survival/knowledge-database/new-urengoy-stones-by-location/
good luck

Jarod "Brickwit" McBrickerton · « **Reply #5 on:** February 27, 2013, 12:38:30 am »

I agree, unless you really think you'll need extra clones you're better off using your old account. Even if you don't have any useful items or loot, at least you'll be able to skip the Newcomer -> Citizen process. All accounts created before the Newcomer process was started were grandfathered into Citizens and everyone can do the tutorial once to get the better freebie items. Use those if you don't want to donate or just keep them as spares in case you are going to donate so that you can buy/craft steel tools.

cyber "killerr" bryan · « **Reply #6 on:** February 27, 2013, 09:40:26 am »

Great answers, ty !

Few more questions. So clones are easy to get no matter which way i go ? And is citizenship easy to get now at days ? If i was not a citizen in my old account will i be now in update ? Also what are these survival points and have they been accumulating even though i have not played since April 2010 ?

cyber "killerr" bryan · « **Reply #7 on:** February 27, 2013, 09:43:22 am »

Also are there any differences in the starter noob items that they give from the start now from then ?

Event "Janе" Horizon · « **Reply #8 on:** February 27, 2013, 10:00:07 am »

Quote from: cyber "killerr" bryan on February 27, 2013, 09:43:22 am

Also are there any differences in the starter noob items that they give from the start now from then ?

Alpha stopped giving starter items a few years prior to Survival.
The list of starter items can be found here: https://my.afterworld.deelogic.net/survival/newcomers-corner/rewards-for-gaining-citizenship/msg4048/#msg4048
The main differences is that AWD citizenship now gives you more items. However, even though the items work at 100% effectiveness - you do not get skills.

cyber "killerr" bryan · « **Reply #9 on:** February 27, 2013, 05:31:25 pm »

Quote from: Event "Janе" Horizon on February 27, 2013, 10:00:07 am

Quote from: cyber "killerr" bryan on February 27, 2013, 09:43:22 am
Also are there any differences in the starter noob items that they give from the start now from then ?
Alpha stopped giving starter items a few years prior to Survival.
The list of starter items can be found here: https://my.afterworld.deelogic.net/survival/newcomers-corner/rewards-for-gaining-citizenship/msg4048/#msg4048
The main differences is that AWD citizenship now gives you more items. However, even though the items work at 100% effectiveness - you do not get skills.

Did the starter items from before stop being handed out before 2010 and are they rare, powerful etc compared to todays starter items ? I still need help answering the other four questions that i written in my above post if anyone is able to please.
1. Are clones are easy to get no matter which account i choose ?
2. Is citizenship easy to get today compared to three years ago ?
3. If i was not a citizen in my old account will i be now in the updated game ?
4. Also what are these survival points and have they been accumulating even though i have not played since April 2010 ?

Rebel Leader "Madseend" Troubles · « **Reply #10 on:** February 27, 2013, 05:48:38 pm »

The starter items i would not bother to much about from my opion are they not worth much, certainly not rare or powerfull
1.yes clones are easy to get it takes about 47kg stone for 1 clone (10.6/10.7 clones from 1 p-note)
2. I think so, there are buyers for stone and p-notes and lots off stones out there so 100 awd is not that hard to get.
3. dont know
4. what the precise use off survival points is or will be we all would like to know, you get them from a deposit or a global or from crafting but without playing you dont accumulate them.

cyber "killerr" bryan · « **Reply #11 on:** February 27, 2013, 07:41:09 pm »

Quote from: Rebel Leader "Madseend" Troubles on February 27, 2013, 05:48:38 pm

The starter items i would not bother to much about from my opion are they not worth much, certainly not rare or powerfull
1.yes clones are easy to get it takes about 47kg stone for 1 clone (10.6/10.7 clones from 1 p-note)
2. I think so, there are buyers for stone and p-notes and lots off stones out there so 100 awd is not that hard to get.
3. dont know
4. what the precise use off survival points is or will be we all would like to know, you get them from a deposit or a global or from crafting but without playing you dont accumulate them.

Tyvm, answers most of my questions

. I have two last questions. Is there any type of skill difference what so ever from those who started before then from those whos start now ? Example: Like maybe before new players started with more HP, strength, agility etc before compared to now. Is there any sort of emblem, badge, name etc that older players have attached or something to them that new players dont ?

dale "dalewj" ofj · « **Reply #12 on:** February 27, 2013, 07:56:23 pm »

On the last 2 question i say no to both.

Event "Janе" Horizon · « **Reply #13 on:** February 27, 2013, 10:01:36 pm »

Quote from: cyber "killerr" bryan on February 27, 2013, 05:31:25 pm

Quote from: Event "Janе" Horizon on February 27, 2013, 10:00:07 am
Quote from: cyber "killerr" bryan on February 27, 2013, 09:43:22 am
Also are there any differences in the starter noob items that they give from the start now from then ?
Alpha stopped giving starter items a few years prior to Survival.
The list of starter items can be found here: https://my.afterworld.deelogic.net/survival/newcomers-corner/rewards-for-gaining-citizenship/msg4048/#msg4048
The main differences is that AWD citizenship now gives you more items. However, even though the items work at 100% effectiveness - you do not get skills.
Did the starter items from before stop being handed out before 2010 and are they rare, powerful etc compared to todays starter items ? I still need help answering the other four questions that i written in my above post if anyone is able to please.
1. Are clones are easy to get no matter which account i choose ?
Jane: Dependent on the NPC/Outpost you go to - you can get up to 10 clones per pnote
You get 1 pnote per 500kg of requested stone
You will be able to pick at least 500kg of stone hour
On average 1 steel pick returns at least 525kg of stone
2. Is citizenship easy to get today compared to three years ago ?
Jane: the above posts have already answered the citizenship by AWD question
Citizenship by pnotes now takes 100 instead of 50.
3. If i was not a citizen in my old account will i be now in the updated game ?
Jane: No
4. Also what are these survival points and have they been accumulating even though i have not played since April 2010 ?
Jane: you would have gotten an initial SP count when the SP wallet was placed in the game (even though you were not playing).
I am not sure that the SP continues to accumulate based on your time in game / account age (or at least I have not noticed this happening)

Jarod "Brickwit" McBrickerton · « **Reply #14 on:** February 27, 2013, 10:17:43 pm »

I made a mistake. If your old account was created in April 2010, you started as a newcomer in Quarantine Zone A1 because it was introduced before that date. This means that the only difference between the two accounts is if you accumulated any skills, items, and resources in the two days you played the old account compared to what you've accumulated in your new account. Everything else will be the same between the two accounts (except your login details and character name, of course).

Quote from: cyber "killerr" bryan on February 27, 2013, 05:31:25 pm

Also are there any differences in the starter noob items that they give from the start now from then ?

Did the starter items from before stop being handed out before 2010 and are they rare, powerful etc compared to todays starter items ?

The Alpha starter items were standard, non-marked items that can be crafted or looted or bought from another player today.

Quote from: cyber "killerr" bryan on February 27, 2013, 05:31:25 pm

I still need help answering the other four questions that i written in my above post if anyone is able to please.
1. Are clones are easy to get no matter which account i choose ?
2. Is citizenship easy to get today compared to three years ago ?
3. If i was not a citizen in my old account will i be now in the updated game ?
4. Also what are these survival points and have they been accumulating even though i have not played since April 2010 ?

1. Since both accounts are newcomers there is no difference.
2. Buying/earning citizenship is the exact same process from Alpha that it is now in Survival. The only real difference for buying your citizenship is that more people are apparently buying now but this could change completely later on. The only difference for earning it is, like Jane said, it takes twice as many P Notes.
3. No, you will still be a newcomer. The difference between then and now is that you can leave NU in AWS (AW Survival) but you could not leave QA1 in AWA (AW Alpha).
4. You won't have any SPs unless you donated at some time in the past, but probably not any donations you did when you played your old account. I think the only donations that counted were the ones at some point during 2011 and on. Globals from the days when you played your old account would not count either. A note about Jane's comment about picks above: the figures are true only of steel picks and I think they are for players with little or no skill. If you use iron picks you will get MUCH less per hour (iron picks are VERY slow) and a lot less per pick (the decay a lot faster and give a lot less per hit).

Quote from: cyber "killerr" bryan on February 27, 2013, 07:41:09 pm

Is there any type of skill difference what so ever from those who started before then from those whos start now ? Example: Like maybe before new players started with more HP, strength, agility etc before compared to now. Is there any sort of emblem, badge, name etc that older players have attached or something to them that new players dont ?

There were no differences between newcomers skilling in QA1 back in April 2010 and newcomers skilling now except that being able to leave the quarantine area means you can potentially gain all of the different types of skills compared to the limited set available in AWA's QA1. Of course both accounts will be able to leave NU and skill on everything possible (as far as I know, though there could be some restrictions on crafting or something) and most mobs will be beyond your ability for either account. There are no markers of any sort which show who the older players are. The only way to know is to look at the old AWA forums for posts and/or screen shots with players' names in them.

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cyber "killerr" bryan

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