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Re: Update: 10th September
« Reply #15 on: August 27, 2014, 07:04:18 pm »
let us just focus on questions for the next update. Don't distract their attention from the work they have at hands :p
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Re: Update: 10th September
« Reply #16 on: August 27, 2014, 07:04:58 pm »
@Spiker: Anti is balancing the Mob loot. He has made this statement: "Only lowest level ingredients that are being dropped from the mobs. Most likely (but not 100% guaranteed) stones, wood and etc won't crumble. No items that were crafter are going to be removed."

Personally, I would not expect stones to be wiped, mainly because the P.Note reward from collecting stones is very close to the AWD cost making Steel picks to collect them (in terms of Citizenship cost) as well as the time effort (especially if a player is attempting to profit via Iron tools!).

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Re: Update: 10th September
« Reply #17 on: August 27, 2014, 07:35:46 pm »
Quote from: Anti "Ether" Danilevski on March 12, 2014, 01:54:20 pm
Quote from: Andrei "Andrei" Popov on March 12, 2014, 01:42:59 pm
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We are planning to remove SAU from the game


Great... I spent thousands of awd buying sau for future unblocking skills.


Anti, do you want to just get sau out or to transform it to something usefull, f.e. p.notes?


Of course we won't just nullify your SAU. When drop is rebalanced and prices of the skills tuned and fixed, we will convert SAU to the equal number of pnotes (or probably offer another way to use them).


or ......


Quote from: Anti "Ether" Danilevski on August 27, 2014, 12:47:17 pm
Alas, SAU are to be wiped.

I don't get it still, why in one post we got the answer as the SAU will be changed, and here we get again the other side of the coin ? ???
I have to admit I m really confuse


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Re: Update: 10th September
« Reply #18 on: August 27, 2014, 08:19:35 pm »
 Hello Anti, I think you said that any item produced by crafting would not be wiped, and this would include any Residues (in fact quoted by Jane above). Since this includes Process Water, could you confirm if any of these other Residues will be wiped. Thanks.
Raw Water, Distilled Water, Wool (Light, Fine, Basic, Rough, Durable), Cellular Bulk, Flock, Scobs, Metal Slag, Common Slag.
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Re: Update: 10th September
« Reply #19 on: August 27, 2014, 08:57:25 pm »
Stone is not loot...

I'm confused about sau. The statement in the past said it would be converted to pnotes. Now this thread says it willie wiped.

Will sau be wiped or converted to p notes?
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Re: Update: 10th September
« Reply #20 on: August 27, 2014, 09:27:48 pm »
The change in decision with SAU was probably only recently made. The devs must have looked at what was still floating around and decided that the amount available will be detrimental to the new P Note-based economy and made the (seemingly reluctant) decision to wipe it after all. So just like mob loot, it's up to us to figure out what to do with them and to do it in a hurry!

I think that Process Water is going to be wiped because there is also too much of it in the game and it's an important ingredient going forward and/or will be an important part of the mob loot rebalancing. Since he didn't mention Pure and Raw Water, which have previously been lootable, they either won't be wiped or he just forgot to mention them. So Anti, it'd be great if you could let us know for sure. :)

I'm also confident that picked and extracted stones are safe. They've never been on the potential chopping block and they take much more work to gather and have always been more carefully balanced than mob loot.

Anti, thanks for the two-week warning, I'm happy to see the update coming soon and know that I have 14 more days to figure out what to do with my soon-to-be-wiped stuff! One final question from me though: are you planning on opening the new cities in the October update, the November/December update, or sometime later?
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Re: Update: 10th September
« Reply #21 on: August 27, 2014, 09:40:07 pm »
The 27-Aug message from Anti  (Alas, SAU are to be wiped.) overrides the prior message.
So players need to either use the SAU or lose it.
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Re: Update: 10th September
« Reply #22 on: August 27, 2014, 09:51:30 pm »
Any clue how long the update will take ? or the time it will be going down ?
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Re: Update: 10th September
« Reply #23 on: August 28, 2014, 06:16:35 am »
Quote from: Event "Janе" Horizon on August 27, 2014, 09:40:07 pm
The 27-Aug message from Anti  (Alas, SAU are to be wiped.) overrides the prior message.
So players need to either use the SAU or lose it.

the 27 message sais to me one more time they have changed statement, again, and we r forced now to adapt, again, ...
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Re: Update: 10th September
« Reply #24 on: August 28, 2014, 06:42:54 am »
Quote from: Gebeleizis "Hultaan" Kapnobatai on August 28, 2014, 06:16:35 am
Quote from: Event "Janе" Horizon on August 27, 2014, 09:40:07 pm
The 27-Aug message from Anti  (Alas, SAU are to be wiped.) overrides the prior message.
So players need to either use the SAU or lose it.

the 27 message sais to me one more time they have changed statement, again, and we r forced now to adapt, again, ...
Adapt?
Oh dear, have you been collecting SAU in an attempt to unblock all those chipped in skills?
Surely the game does not have that much SAU  ;)
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Re: Update: 10th September
« Reply #25 on: August 28, 2014, 07:07:02 am »
Quote from: Event "Janе" Horizon on August 27, 2014, 09:40:07 pm
The 27-Aug message from Anti  (Alas, SAU are to be wiped.) overrides the prior message.
So players need to either use the SAU or lose it.
It's not in Anti's announcement at the top of this thread, which is consistent with the earlier statement.
Given that this is a major shift, particularly for some players, I'm sure Anti would have given more notice than just 2 weeks until the release, so it is possible his reply to the subsequent question is merely a misinterpretation.
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Re: Update: 10th September
« Reply #26 on: August 28, 2014, 09:00:57 am »
Quote from: dale "dalewj" ofj on August 27, 2014, 04:29:33 pm
my question is a simple.  What kind of downtime you think this will take?  1 day?  6 hours?


Good question. As usual, from 3 to 6 hours (if nothing unexpected happens).
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Re: Update: 10th September
« Reply #27 on: August 28, 2014, 09:07:54 am »
Quote from: Event "Janе" Horizon on August 27, 2014, 09:40:07 pm
The 27-Aug message from Anti  (Alas, SAU are to be wiped.) overrides the prior message.
So players need to either use the SAU or lose it.


Well, that's right. We have discussed it again and recalculated balance, to see if convertation SAU to p.notes won't hurt the game and new balance. We did it again today and it appears to be safe, so we are back to the first decision: SAU won't be wiped, but are going to be converted to p.notes. One SAU = one (new) p.note.

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Re: Update: 10th September
« Reply #28 on: August 28, 2014, 09:55:41 am »
Quote from: Anti "Ether" Danilevski on August 28, 2014, 09:07:54 am
Quote from: Event "Janе" Horizon on August 27, 2014, 09:40:07 pm
The 27-Aug message from Anti  (Alas, SAU are to be wiped.) overrides the prior message.
So players need to either use the SAU or lose it.


Well, that's right. We have discussed it again and recalculated balance, to see if convertation SAU to p.notes won't hurt the game and new balance. We did it again today and it appears to be safe, so we are back to the first decision: SAU won't be wiped, but are going to be converted to p.notes. One SAU = one (new) p.note.

Cheers, sorry for scaring you ;)
Thanks Anti ... stop being so scary!

Interesting post though ... this either implies that there is  not millions of SAU knocking about; or that the current P.Note quantity is going to be massively increased.
You did make a mention way back in March that micro-Pnotes where going to be multiplied by 1000 to convert them into P.Notes.
Are the current quantities of Pnotes also going to be multiplied by 1000?
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Re: Update: 10th September
« Reply #29 on: August 28, 2014, 09:58:29 am »
Quote from: Event "Janе" Horizon on August 28, 2014, 09:55:41 am
Quote from: Anti "Ether" Danilevski on August 28, 2014, 09:07:54 am
Quote from: Event "Janе" Horizon on August 27, 2014, 09:40:07 pm
The 27-Aug message from Anti  (Alas, SAU are to be wiped.) overrides the prior message.
So players need to either use the SAU or lose it.


Well, that's right. We have discussed it again and recalculated balance, to see if convertation SAU to p.notes won't hurt the game and new balance. We did it again today and it appears to be safe, so we are back to the first decision: SAU won't be wiped, but are going to be converted to p.notes. One SAU = one (new) p.note.

Cheers, sorry for scaring you ;)
Thanks Anti ... stop being so scary!

Interesting post though ... this either implies that there is  not millions of SAU knocking about; or that the current P.Note quantity is going to be massively increased.
You did make a mention that micro-Pnotes where going to be multiplied by 1000 to convert them into P.Notes.
Are the current quantities of Pnotes also going to be multiplied by 1000?


We have decided that the rate is going to be 1 to 100, not to 1000. Same goes for usual p.notes. There are plently of SAU on user's hands, but their skills are high and have a quite high price to unlock. So everything should be ok.
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