AfterWorld Survival Forum

Since we do not have a list of what is considered to be a low level mob - I am guessing that we should be using the loot returned as an indication of whether a creature is low level or not.

Take  Foulito Alba Apprentice as an example. They are located in NU at the snow end of the zone, so should be beginner creatures.

I haven't really killed enough of them to get a great list of loot, the loot list I have got so far looks like this:

Mutant tendon Weight:   0.004
Mutant bile,   Weight:   0.001
Mutant blood   Weight:   0.018
Tooth      Weight:   0.004
Medical plants,   Weight:   0.009
Mutant tendon   Weight:   0.003
Tooth      Weight:   0.003
Mutant bile   Weight:   0.001

However, these creatures take a long time to kill using beginner weapons due to their ~866 point health.
To start with you would need a HK that heals at least 10 points per second to survive the ~18.7 damage per hit (or a good Impact reduction avoidance/armor and a lower HK heal since cold seems to be give lower damage than impact).

Using a B&V Sieger at full damage would take 87 shots. Unlike surviving damage, there is no easy way to giving more damage. So a player would have to skill up to a reasonable weapon like a Grom Hunter before tackling a Foulito Alba Apprentice.

The subjective question is: is it really worth a players effort to skill up to loot Foulito Alba Apprentice for the loot quantities given?
Would players simply skip this creature and find more effective creatures for similar loot gathers easier from other creatures (assuming these exist).

Jarod, your comments about Foulito Alba being a beginner Cold Avoidance creature is a very good reason to consider Foulito Alba Apprentice as a low level creature. This insight is very useful as it reminds me that the game has certain pathways that must be traveled if you are into Avoidance skilling.

I think the high health of Foulito Alba Apprentice could be a make Cold a bad skill to try to get from it. This was fine for when skills and SAU to unblock were given at the same time.
Unfortunately, now you'll need to kill to get the unblocking ability - this is something I cannot see happening with Foulito Alba Apprentice.
IMHO the loot quantity is too small compared to say Molesaurs that are beginner kill-able, give a good skill rate, and a reasonable loot quantity.

However, currently PNote deficiency is unavoidable due to the other skills gained, so this might not be as much a big deal as it seems (just more grinding).

if i put myself in a newcomer perspective that just managed to get the citizenship a few days ago i would never consider Foulito albas a low level mobs. I would assume a low level mob is something that i could more or less hunt without constantly dying.

Jane i don't agree with you about the grum hunter. I have been hunting them to skill my rifle and melee skills and i started with a sieger mod and snakebite (for  a little bit then i just went to the colibri).
It is perfectly doable if your healing skills are slightly higher, and that is what happened to me. I recon it would take a couple of weeks for a newcomer to achieve the necessary skills to be able to hunt confortably the apprentices.

Speaking of unblocking skills then yes, killing a foultio alba with the current loot is not sensible, only if you ar ethere to skill the cold avoid and just shoot with no worries for the loot. But then you will be in trouble like i am at the moment that i do not have much loot to change for pnotes when it comes available...

I take the example of Bongwater, he managed to achieve a level of avoids and heal in roughly 2 weeks that allowed him to hunt foulito albas if he wanted. But he did put some effort in those two weeks.

My hope is that once all of the loot numbers have been adjusted to their proper levels, a newcomer will be able to properly unblock his/her avoidance skills at a rate similar to what we were able to do when SAU was required and when it was received during damage received, given, and healed. If (s)he builds up the primary avoidance skills first (cut, impact, and stab), or at the very least impact, before attempting to hunt FAs, (s)he will not be in trouble because of the combined impact avoidance stage and healing capabilities and will be able to take advantage of the apprentice maturity's high HP while also gaining skill points in a new avoidance type.

If what I hope for is way off, well we still haven't been given any real clues about the new newcomer system that they're putting into place in the near future. Newcomers may have entire quest lines to give them with these avoidance skills and/or some useful armor, or there may be something entirely new that will help them much more than we can imagine right now.