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Re: Cost of Death
« Reply #30 on: November 05, 2013, 06:10:38 am »
AWS currently does not require payment; nor does it place limits on how far a player can develop without paying.In AWA, once a player reached a certain level; and/or was happy to pick stones - they could be active in AWA with no monetary input into the game.Clones put an additional cost to these sort of players - eventually an active player has to either pick stones (a time cost) or donate (a money cost) to advance.Note: if an active player could play with just their Newcomer clones. However, that would be a player that takes no risks and skills very slowly against sub-par mobs etc (which again is a time cost).

Whether this is Dedicated Logic's intent is anyone's guess.
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Re: Cost of Death
« Reply #31 on: November 05, 2013, 09:22:53 am »
AWS currently does not require payment; nor does it place limits on how far a player can develop without paying.In AWA, once a player reached a certain level; and/or was happy to pick stones - they could be active in AWA with no monetary input into the game.Clones put an additional cost to these sort of players - eventually an active player has to either pick stones (a time cost) or donate (a money cost) to advance.Note: if an active player could play with just their Newcomer clones. However, that would be a player that takes no risks and skills very slowly against sub-par mobs etc (which again is a time cost).

Whether this is Dedicated Logic's intent is anyone's guess.

Just begin as newcomer , and i don't going pay real money for my deaths in game... . I m self-playnig and not going read "dumb" wiki, forum e. t.c. Just wanna "get some shots in the mobs "("hunt on bear"). So, don't want to picking... so "dumb" for me, pay 100 awd for sitizenship and "was born" in Saranks with some prizes (Defender, some ammo)... (I really did it in 2008, with smal action in Saransk. Somebody from players gifted me AK47 rifle...)
I charge my rifle and go seek mob...
And what I see?
- That i can't kill any mobs near Saransk...
- And after 100 dies I can't buy clone ...
So, what I will do on second step?
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Re: Cost of Death
« Reply #32 on: November 05, 2013, 01:15:37 pm »
Newcomers have unlimited clones, it is the citizens who pay for death with clone. Also, when a newcomer, you can visit the outposts outside of NU for 50 clones per outpost? pretty good deal, if you have an escort that is, but even without, it's possible, just harder.


In my opinion, the cost of death is cheap. At the moment i REALLY, don't care if i die. I know that if i get low on clones, i can just go pick rocks for half an hour and i'll earn about 21 more clones (this is with my pick being at max efficiency though ofc, so for newcomer is harder/lower).


FYI yesterday i died probably 10 times, about 5 because i would lag out and unfreeze dead lol, and another 5 because of small mistakes in hunt. Do i care? no
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Re: Cost of Death
« Reply #33 on: November 05, 2013, 02:53:42 pm »
Newcomers have unlimited clones, it is the citizens who pay for death with clone. Also, when a newcomer, you can visit the outposts outside of NU for 50 clones per outpost? pretty good deal, if you have an escort that is, but even without, it's possible, just harder.


In my opinion, the cost of death is cheap. At the moment i REALLY, don't care if i die. I know that if i get low on clones, i can just go pick rocks for half an hour and i'll earn about 21 more clones (this is with my pick being at max efficiency though ofc, so for newcomer is harder/lower).


FYI yesterday i died probably 10 times, about 5 because i would lag out and unfreeze dead lol, and another 5 because of small mistakes in hunt. Do i care? no
LOL... You thinking about yourself only.


So... game must be something  about "Crazy russian hunt" with russian nature, russian animal (I saw the rudoed in deep forest in Siberia, where i live  ) russian vodka, balalayka, banya (so sauna) and drunk fighting after all. LOL
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Re: Cost of Death
« Reply #34 on: November 05, 2013, 05:09:13 pm »
[size=78%]So... game must be something  about "Crazy russian hunt" with russian nature, russian animal (I saw the rudoed in deep forest in Siberia, where i live  ) russian vodka, balalayka, banya (so sauna) and drunk fighting after all. LOL[/size]


that would be pretty awesome actually. what makes me any different from you? what i am saying is clones cost PENNIES not awd. awc, not awd. We can't have death free, or else no one would need to run or drive anywhere, just tele or rev from anywhere, so the huge map now doesn't matter. that's why we have clones (my theory)
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Re: Cost of Death
« Reply #35 on: November 05, 2013, 07:47:08 pm »
Just begin as newcomer , and i don't going pay real money for my deaths in game... . I m self-playnig and not going read "dumb" wiki, forum e. t.c. Just wanna "get some shots in the mobs "("hunt on bear"). So, don't want to picking... so "dumb" for me, pay 100 awd for sitizenship and "was born" in Saranks with some prizes (Defender, some ammo)... (I really did it in 2008, with smal action in Saransk. Somebody from players gifted me AK47 rifle...)
I charge my rifle and go seek mob...
And what I see?
- That i can't kill any mobs near Saransk...
- And after 100 dies I can't buy clone ...
So, what I will do on second step?
Your 'newness' explains your lack of insight into the game.

Unfortunately, AWS is not a game where you start the game being able to kill anything you want.

You apparently:
> refuse to read,
> refuse to skill,
> refuse to plan ahead,
> refuse to perform activities that would support your goals,
> refuse to realize that you are too unskilled for your weapon
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Re: Cost of Death
« Reply #36 on: November 05, 2013, 07:56:24 pm »
...
not going read "dumb" wiki, forum e. t.c.
...
So, what I will do on second step?
The answer to that is already being discussed in the forums.

Unfortunately, since you refuse to read - you will never find the answer.

If you are actually stuck without clones - PM me in the forum with the link to the topic that has the answer (sorry, you will have to read the 'dumb' forum to get that) and I'll help you.
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Re: Cost of Death
« Reply #37 on: November 05, 2013, 10:17:45 pm »
...
not going read "dumb" wiki, forum e. t.c.
...
So, what I will do on second step?
The answer to that is already being discussed in the forums.

Unfortunately, since you refuse to read - you will never find the answer.

If you are actually stuck without clones - PM me in the forum with the link to the topic that has the answer (sorry, you will have to read the 'dumb' forum to get that) and I'll help you.


LOL u did't understood what i wrote. May be it was from my bad english..


U can check my personal state on the forum, just bottom from ava...


I talk about common user who never read forums, wiki, game rules, etc when begin to gaming... just begin as his understand game... Now AWS with life counter...
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Re: Cost of Death
« Reply #38 on: November 05, 2013, 11:32:18 pm »
How new do you think Aquilla is to Afterworld?
 
 
 
Just begin as newcomer , and i don't going pay real money for my deaths in game... . I m self-playnig and not going read "dumb" wiki, forum e. t.c. Just wanna "get some shots in the mobs "("hunt on bear"). So, don't want to picking... so "dumb" for me, pay 100 awd for sitizenship and "was born" in Saranks with some prizes (Defender, some ammo)... (I really did it in 2008, with smal action in Saransk. Somebody from players gifted me AK47 rifle...)
I charge my rifle and go seek mob...
And what I see?
- That i can't kill any mobs near Saransk...
- And after 100 dies I can't buy clone ...
So, what I will do on second step?
Your 'newness' explains your lack of insight into the game.

Unfortunately, AWS is not a game where you start the game being able to kill anything you want.

You apparently:
> refuse to read,
> refuse to skill,
> refuse to plan ahead,
> refuse to perform activities that would support your goals,
> refuse to realize that you are too unskilled for your weapon
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Re: Cost of Death
« Reply #39 on: November 05, 2013, 11:45:27 pm »
New to Survival world, he is an old time alpha player.


Vlad does have some valid point in that he had friends who played with him and now he's the only one still here, maybe there is a way to get them back here, (but im not sure if anything will change with clones) if it did that'd be nice, but im not sure what they would put into its place
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Re: Cost of Death
« Reply #40 on: November 06, 2013, 12:14:43 am »
...
not going read "dumb" wiki, forum e. t.c.
...
So, what I will do on second step?

The answer to that is already being discussed in the forums.

Unfortunately, since you refuse to read - you will never find the answer.

If you are actually stuck without clones - PM me in the forum with the link to the topic that has the answer (sorry, you will have to read the 'dumb' forum to get that) and I'll help you.

LOL u did't understood what i wrote. May be it was from my bad english..

U can check my personal state on the forum, just bottom from ava...

I talk about common user who never read forums, wiki, game rules, etc when begin to gaming... just begin as his understand game... Now AWS with life counter...

Okey dokey - you did confuse me with all the 'I' statements.
In regards to a brand new Newcomer who has never player the game before ... they do not have a cost of death. Their reserve of clones does not diminished during the cloning process.

The hypothetical Citizen, you are proposing in https://my.afterworld.deelogic.net/survival/ideas-and-features-discussion/cost-of-death/msg8886/#msg8886 is a fallacy. The player would have spend a significant amount of their game play being blissfully killed, ignoring the 100 messages that pop up in the process, warning them that they are consuming clones ... with the message becoming more alarming as the player approaches zero clones.
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Re: Cost of Death
« Reply #41 on: November 06, 2013, 02:07:15 am »
Hi Allfather,  yeah I knew he was an old player, I just wasn't sure others were as they kept referring to him as a new player.
Strange when people like to tell everyone how experienced they are in Afterworld yet they don't know their fellow players.
 
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not going read "dumb" wiki, forum e. t.c.
...
So, what I will do on second step?

The answer to that is already being discussed in the forums.

Unfortunately, since you refuse to read - you will never find the answer.

If you are actually stuck without clones - PM me in the forum with the link to the topic that has the answer (sorry, you will have to read the 'dumb' forum to get that) and I'll help you.

LOL u did't understood what i wrote. May be it was from my bad english..

U can check my personal state on the forum, just bottom from ava...

I talk about common user who never read forums, wiki, game rules, etc when begin to gaming... just begin as his understand game... Now AWS with life counter...

Okey dokey - you did confuse me with all the 'I' statements.
In regards to a brand new Newcomer who has never player the game before ... they do not have a cost of death. Their reserve of clones does not diminished during the cloning process.

The hypothetical Citizen, you are proposing in https://my.afterworld.deelogic.net/survival/ideas-and-features-discussion/cost-of-death/msg8886/#msg8886 is a fallacy. The player would have spend a significant amount of their game play being blissfully killed, ignoring the 100 messages that pop up in the process, warning them that they are consuming clones ... with the message becoming more alarming as the player approaches zero clones.
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Re: Cost of Death
« Reply #42 on: November 06, 2013, 02:17:21 am »
Weird - the only person not mentioned in ZenX's quote is  Zaelkaer "Allfather" Vampyre.
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Re: Cost of Death
« Reply #43 on: November 06, 2013, 02:21:09 am »
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The hypothetical Citizen, you are proposing in https://my.afterworld.deelogic.net/survival/ideas-and-features-discussion/cost-of-death/msg8886/#msg8886 is a fallacy. The player would have spend a significant amount of their game play being blissfully killed, ignoring the 100 messages that pop up in the process, warning them that they are consuming clones ... with the message becoming more alarming as the player approaches zero clones.

YES, try to think how new user play for this game...
With this messages he will leave from game more faster as you think...
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Re: Cost of Death
« Reply #44 on: November 06, 2013, 02:31:43 am »
Wow this thread is getting personal as well as slight digs at each other... Thought this thread was about the cost of death, Not who's best on trying to one up another... who cares if the person is old or new, each player with a registered AW account has a right to post in these forums and find info out... I really wish the personal Crap and squabbles was left aside... ,makes me wish this forum was moderated to clean up squabbles, because its a waste to read them.. maybe Technicator should be here? AW is never gonna progress with petty crap going on and players causing conflicts just to say there better then one another.. wake up smell the coffee.. it ain't worth bickering about.
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