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Advancement ??? When and how???
« on: July 21, 2013, 05:33:39 pm »
Its me again .. so after becoming a "citizen" I thought " Now the real game begins!!!". Far from it .. I just got my 75th P-note and still not able to make the most basic tool .. the steel pick. Now there is the possibility that I'm to stupid to grasp the concept of the game. So could someone please tell me that there is more to the game than me making " Donations" to buy picks. I bought so far for about 20$ picks and it starts to suck. Its not about the money ( if I can make them I have to pay too ) but the feeling of not getting anywhere. I do like the game but something isn't right here.
Sorry if I appear like a nagging noob.
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Re: Advancement ??? When and how???
« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2013, 06:29:44 pm »
Its me again .. so after becoming a "citizen" I thought " Now the real game begins!!!". Far from it .. I just got my 75th P-note and still not able to make the most basic tool .. the steel pick. Now there is the possibility that I'm to stupid to grasp the concept of the game. So could someone please tell me that there is more to the game than me making " Donations" to buy picks. I bought so far for about 20$ picks and it starts to suck. Its not about the money ( if I can make them I have to pay too ) but the feeling of not getting anywhere. I do like the game but something isn't right here.
Sorry if I appear like a nagging noob.


Think you can find the information needed on http://wiki.afterworld.ru/wiki/Main_Page
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« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2013, 07:29:54 pm »
All the main page tells me is that I need cd's to make a pick. "Sometimes" offered as a reward. All I got so far is for me useless ccd's for armor. Useless because they require blank cd's to activate .. which of course I have no way to get. So I have no way of making a pick.
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« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2013, 10:35:43 pm »
I afraid you have hit one of the issues with the game.

The game does not give you the starter CDs by default - it expects you to perform tasks to randomly get the required CDs (along with a lot of junk).

When there were a reasonable number of players online - you had an alternate route of buying the CDs on the Market.

Unfortunately I cannot remember if I managed to get my 3 required steel pick CDs from rewards or by buying them.
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« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2013, 01:13:27 am »
Thank you Jane for the info. Not what I wanted to hear but kinda expected to hear. Guess I play till all the awd are gone and than forget about it. Sucks.
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« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2013, 04:45:51 am »
I've got a bunch of those CDs and I'm sure I'm not in the minority in that way, but the next time I'm online I'll make a run for NU and try to get a set to you.
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« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2013, 05:18:25 am »
Thank you jarod .. but that's not why I was posting my question .. I have no problems to pay for stuff I want ( armor and weapons I bought over the market) and know that I need awd for making the picks as well.. its just right now I don't feel any accomplishment in the game .. the ore, metals and minerals are stacking up in storage and nothing I can do with .. on the other hand the game promises a lot .. even for a solo player like me .. if you can get to it .. I think with a little tweek of the game it could be very enjoyable.
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« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2013, 08:19:57 am »
Indeed, the game should make sure you will get all the needed CD's: Pickaxe head MPF (component), Pickaxe handle MPF (component) and Pickaxe ASP (to put the components together... if i remember it right) so u can make your own pickaxes by the time you have collected the needed PNotes to get your citizenship.


In the old times there was always ppl in the Quarantine, so there was always alternate way to trade the needed stuff or buy from the market terminal. Now as the game's empty the problem becomes obvious.
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« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2013, 07:42:36 pm »
Thank you jarod .. but that's not why I was posting my question .. I have no problems to pay for stuff I want ( armor and weapons I bought over the market) and know that I need awd for making the picks as well.. its just right now I don't feel any accomplishment in the game .. the ore, metals and minerals are stacking up in storage and nothing I can do with .. on the other hand the game promises a lot .. even for a solo player like me .. if you can get to it .. I think with a little tweek of the game it could be very enjoyable.
What sort of accomplishments are you looking for? There isn't any kind of achievement system or anything like that (so far), so everyone who's played extensively up to now has had to create their own achievement goals.

For most people, being the most-skilled at one or more of the professions is the goal they sought. With enough money this becomes very easy to do as long as there are other players willing to sell skills.
For other people, being able to kill off any other player they found in PvP is the goal, which is really just another form of the previous goal.
For still others, there is some other internal goal that they've worked towards, such as using the best gun, crafting the highest armor, or similar, which also hooks back to the first goal. But like PvP, it takes other players running around to know who's "the best" at any given thing.

Are you hoping for something that the game itself would provide instead?
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« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2013, 08:24:33 pm »
well, if i remember i got my 3 cds from getting the pnotes. I remember stressing a bit everytime i got a new cd it wasn't the one i needed. but eventurally around my 110 th pnote i got the final needed cd to make my picks. :)
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« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2013, 09:34:43 pm »
After reading the the OP's first post again I have a slightly different answer, though it also connects with my previous post.

If all you're doing is picking rocks to get P Notes, then yes you're going to get pretty bored pretty quick. You'll have a wide variety of resources that can be used for crafting a variety of items too, but until you start crafting, hunting, and/or mining they'll just seem useless.

So my recommendation is to start crafting things. It's quite cheap to craft the low-end stuff - which is all you'll be able to craft right now anyway - and it'll give you a feel for the system. Craft a steel pick, a steel axe, an A1-FL HK, a sieger and some ammo, a dagger pugio, and some low-end armor if you have the AWD and the desire to use each of them. If you can't or don't want to craft certain things, try to buy them on the market - and open a new thread in the Market Network here on the forums if you can't find what you want to buy. Then go out and use them up on the mobs in and around NU to see what you like, if you don't already have an idea.


The only way to know which direction to go right now is to try things out. Chances are good that you've already played some other MMOs or games where you've found the kinds of things that you like to do, so apply those ideas here as best you can. If you aren't sure about anything at all, just post here or start another thread. That's what this whole forum section is for, after all. ;-)
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« Reply #11 on: July 22, 2013, 09:39:50 pm »
Does anyone know if the Steel Pick CDs are a reward from crafting?

Note to new players: you get a random CD related to type of crafting you are doing when you spend 15+AWD(???) in a crafting transaction. This randomly gives you the next CD level up from your current CD.

However (to be confirmed by the players that have more crafting knowledge than I) - I think it might only be the ASP CD that does this (i.e. not the component MPF CD).
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« Reply #12 on: July 23, 2013, 12:00:34 am »
Ugh, I forgot about the AWD minimum. I'm still in the mindset where we used to have a fairly good chance of getting a CD with every craft that used a CD!

I did some crafting recently - about 16 separate items - and didn't get any CDs at all, but each item was less than 10 AWD each. I'll try crafting something more expensive and see if I get any, but the last time I crafted a whole bunch of picks all at once - costing at least 15 AWD, and probably a fair amount more - I don't recall getting any CDs, though this was several months ago.
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« Reply #13 on: July 23, 2013, 12:09:01 am »
To Jarod .. with achievement I mean to be able to do something with the stuff I collect... I have tons of minerals , boards, stone and logs in the storage .. and can do squickly dick with it. You talk about crafting low level things .. like the steel pick .. that's what I mean .. I cant cause I don't have the cd's for low level crafting. I made around 30.000 rounds of ammunition of different kind .. I have a couple hundred rounds of blasting charges ( which are of no use to me but I thought I get somewhere in crafting what I can), I dragged 300 kg of animal parts (about half of what I had in storage) to sargansk hoping I could make something there and see results .. guess what .. after processing you need cd's again .. cant make a gun cause I don't have the cd's for that either .. or a dagger. And that's what I mean with achievement .. or call it the " aha" effect .. when you can make something usefull. Otherwise there is only picking rocks and killing slugs ( well .. wolfs I can kill too). I still think the game has all the trimmings to be great .. either with more players to get the market system going or some tweeks .
But that's just me .
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« Reply #14 on: July 23, 2013, 02:26:06 am »
I tried as suggested here .. 1600 charges for the mining drill = 16 awd .. only got 2 survival points .. have a cd for mfd-1 boxes .. max amount I can make is 75 = 2 awd .. got nothing for that other than 3% in mining tools .. anything else I could try ?
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