AfterWorld Survival Forum

Thanks for the update, Evangelist.

I never expected Dedicated Logic to implement a EU RCE model as this obviously would not work with either the AfterWorld Alpha configuration nor the Survival configuration.

In regards to Survival features - Dedicated Logic had spent many hours producing truly unique and addictive game with AfterWorld Alpha.

It is these Alpha components which I miss in Survival. The missing features reduces my ability to develop.
This makes Survival a strangely fragmented game which may reduce the number of players who will play.

The new Survival features are interesting, however these cannot compete with the inability of players to progress in a Profession they have chosen.

PVP development is redundant unless you are targeting only those players that are currently skilled enough to make PVP a possibility.
As the current Survival configuration is designed to slow the rate of up-skilling, you will be hard pressed to find a large crowd of players willing to spend a year bringing themselves to the point where the 'interesting' areas of the world are reasonably safe for them to enter.

Hopefully at some point in the next several months some of the issues that I face will be resolved.

[...] players decide how much money they are willing to spend for their own development. [...]
[...] We intend to further develop the PvP [...] where players pay high price for death [...]

Pay money to get shooted down at all corners? Sounds great.

[...] AW will not use the RCE model [...]

This should have better posted 6 Years ago.



Greetings - Zwarky

Current PVP mechanism seems unfair to me.
That is becouse PVP hunter (person who try to rober another person) can go to PVP area with empty wallet and almost empty inventory. He is risking with almost nothing.
 
I recomend change this mechanism that way - player can loot from another player no more value as he carry in his own inventory.
How to calculate total value of different items - it is not trivial question, that should be discussed.

Thank you in advance
(and sorry for my poor English)
Ostap

The biggest unique aspect of Afterworld has been the fact that you would be able to deposit and also withdrawl.
If you haven't grasped this you have missed understanding what appeals to the majority of players that have been loyal to the game, in my opinion.
Most left EU looking for a better version of an MMO where you would be able to withdraw.
 
PvP, if you think PvP is why we all play then think again. Obviously some are more dedicated to PvP, but in my experience most people enjoyed challenging crafting and hunting and mining and trading, and skilling, don't forget skilling, always fun
To be honest, paying a high price for death, as you put it would have no appeal at all.
I might be the odd man out here but I don't desire an adrenaline rush from dying, its more of a nuisance and just slows me down from doing what I wanted to be doing.
 
I cant speak for anyone but myself, but if you made the game high focus on PvP and removed the prospect of being able to withdraw, I am not sure it would be a game I would like to play.
I've had 15+ years of solid MMO PvP, it's not appealing the way it once was, particularly the Afterworld style of PvP pointing some skinny gun inaccurately at some person probably 20 or 30 years younger than me with youthful dexterity ,lol.
Some PvP MMO styles are fun, but I always found AWs mundane and tedious. PvP has been done to death.Put an arena in if you have to.
I don't want to bash a keyboard, I want an interesting and challenging game that rewards me for thinking and longevity.
 
I think you would find about 90%+ of players here would play for and desire the withdrawal aspect, I think that removing one of the most appealing aspects would be a very silly idea.
 
Zen
 

I`m not ready to describe all here in details because I know that some our competitors are watching our project. I can tell only one thing now – AW will not use the RCE model in the form in which it is used in EU. RCE model in its pure form can`t allow to make a really massive game.

Your competitors?  Who can compete with AW? 

This is not a bad thing, as the EU R.C.E model is indeed a dead end.
But what i read in this sentence is that they will construct a R.C.E model other than EU.

Most likely allow players to trade outside the game them self as already is done for many years without punishment or banned account.
This is in a way already a R.C.E for many years and I personally liked the approach so far.

... closer to the the EVE-online model then to the EU model ... we want to secure growing free market economy and a relatively stable exchange rate of in-game currency.

I can read it as: there is withrdawal but it's funded only by other players not "the house" (think: Second Life); "free market" seems to refer to: "auction but no TT-terminal", meaning there is no officially backed up "starting bid" placed on all items by "the house" (like in EU).
And they want to make sure resources are not repartitioned inside game based on luck (ie no globals and hofs).

Which is how it has been all the time...

Well, looking at the number of players in generic MMOs and compare this to RCE MMO... there's nothing to compare. RCE has very small playerbase, so small that u have to struggle for life all the time. If AW tries to avoid the same fate, can't blame them.
The RCE aspect works as a filter thou, it keeps away masses of the brainless teens "looking 4 luv" , in many ways those who remain are the aristocracy of gaming. Means, there has to be some filtering mechanisme somewhere... but it's prolly not the best moment to preach this.

And the last thing. We intend to further develop the PvP and mass-PvP component of gameplay. Our game must be really «survival» game where players pay high price for death. Excess adrenaline in the game adds interest.

I will not get a nervous breakdown when there's a few PvP zones in the game. Why should i?
"Mass-PvP component" seems interesting, the target audience seems to be the "not so highly skilled guy".
PvP is very hard to pull off technically. Need high stability, high security and high performance - all at the same time. When this works everything else works just great... and vice versa.

Hello I am happy to hear some news.


There are some features that is very important for me and some of my friends.


1) A way to withdraw AWD  , something to have a tool to make secure transaction.


2) A game that is optimized , that it can turn on some old computer ( Pentium 4 Dual core / GPU = GTX 260 )

• Add options to improve the game ( Speed or CPU % )
• Optimize the main loop to have only X Frame by second. ( I love a process when it shows me CPU <  25%)

3) Craft system :

• A game that has a complex craft tree. At this moment we have a lot of components we don't use.
• Give us the tools to help us in craft ( when we do ammunition , expand the number by batch , fill the components automatically.
• Give us the tools to make quest for others players ( I want to Buy 1 Steel pick at 3.4Awd ; I want to trade X components for Y components ; Transport components from one city to another against money ; there ara a lot of opportunities.)
• Give us containers with label.
• Add craft with wood.
• Add craft with more stones.
• Craft only with basic items( Stone -> Steel lingot -> ...)

4) New Profession : recycling

• We can have complex item in the loot , but we want basic items for crafting.

5) Map / Creatures :

• Before I can go to Saransk from QA1 in 15 minutes , Now I need 1 Hour and I have monsters on the road. I think that is no good for busyness.
• Before we have zone with one kind of creatures , with a good spawn time....now this is a pain. And walking 1hour to return to the spot when we are dead is not a solution.

6) Picking :

• I like this job but I would like more kind of pick ( To improve  craft , to improve pick rate , to pick better stones ).
• Change the stone rate ( More Lead , More phaar , More Nitre , Less Utium ...
• Perhaps a mine instead of stone everywhere on the map ( Less objects ).

6) Make package for the game:

• Then you can sell / rent the basic core of the game

7) Make the game less bugs as possible.

Good communication with players about the new features and the deadline.

9) No Need for the moment:

• New avatar texture