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No need of RCE, just create a webshop like place where players can buy/sell awd/stuff using Paypal or other methods. Players would sell below the system's exchange rate, but this alone would attract many players.

It`s one thing we`re thinking about. But we wont implement a kind of this until we understand it works without damage for game economy. It`s not a simple task.

Place something interesting in that region that will make people want to go there and risk their lifes. Like a treasure, valuable loot from mobs, rich place to mine, a freaking oil rig.....

  Good idea 

To bad so much critical changes have to take place but in the end it could really become a great game platform.
Learned that game development is something great and I can only hope every game developer can make his dreams true.

Good luck AW team and hope you all doing well on the new update that is expected by lots of people!

Quote from: The "Fifth" Entity on July 29, 2013, 12:42:25 pm

I'm a big fan of "Actions speak louder than words". With long explanations comes the risk of misunderstanding, which rises even more questions. The game itself is often much better answer, the features and mechanics are there, in a plain sight for everyone to see.

Absolutely agreed!
So we must do 2 things first: update with trees&herbs and new avatars implementation.
As for me personally, you know, my task is to get "smart money" for farther development and company building.


P.S. You say, RCE is not EU and EU is not RCE. True. But you must understand one important thing. RCE with fixed exchange rate is impossible without gambling scheme. We dont want AW to become gambling game. So our model will be closer to EVE or SL.

I think people might have missed the bit in red.
What Evangelist might be saying is that DL might implement a zero-sum system.


I think it goes like this:
Day 0:
DL account balance = $0


Day 1:
Player A deposits $10 = 100AWD
Player B deposits $10 = 100AWD
Player account balance = 200 AWD
DL account balance = $20


Day 10:
DL expenditure since Day 1: $5
DL account balance = $15.
Player account balance = 200 AWD
Player B withdraws 100AWD, exchange rate = $15/200AWD = $0.075/AWD, Player B receives $7.50.

Player account balance now = 100 AWD
DL account balance now = $7.50.


Day 20:
DL expenditure since Day 10: $5
DL account balance = $2.50.
Player account balance = 100 AWD
Player A withdraws 100AWD, exchange rate = $2.5/100AWD = $0.025/AWD, Player B receives $2.50.
DL account balance = $0.


If the exchange rate was fixed (at same rate as deposit) then DL will have a debit of $10 at day 20 = bankrupt.

There may be a good (tax) reason for calling player $$$ inputs into the game "Deposits".
Participating in or facilitating withdrawals would probably make this taxable income as far as the Taxman is concerned.

People seem to be only looking at losing RCE models,lol.
The model that suits a successful game is the model where the owners of the game shave small margins of daily activities, such as crafting and auctions and skills, something akin to taxes, need I remind people this is how governments gain revenue to run countries.
It is the design of the RCE model that would dictate how successful it would be, therefore if the Devs could create a viable model they can make money.
Taxing is a fine balance between extracting funds consistently and not over doing it so the citizen gets annoyed.
Money from deposits is partially taxed, money from crafting is taxed, money from auctions is taxed, money in relation to skill removals is taxed, use of buildings is taxed, use Micro notes etc are a tax, and so on and so on.
 
At the end of the day AW players are citizens that are regularly taxed, revenues are decided through taxes and scale, the more players the more taxes.
The same as the real world, this is why governments are always encouraging us to breed, even though the planet will hold only a certain amount of people.
 
To say all RCE models are gambling is showing a lack of understanding, making a successful RCE model requires some mathematical skill, if the Devs don't have those skills there is nothing stopping them from consulting a Mathematician or an Economist.
How difficult it is to make a viable RCE model depends on various factors, some of them are costs and scale of player base, how much profit is deemed acceptable and the mechanism of economic function in game.
 
Is RCE gambling, well yes, but so is everything, so is running any government in the world, so is running Blizzard or Microsoft or Apple or Enzon, so is walking across the road or working with machinery, so is Life.
 
Real gambling is betting on the horses or playing roulette, particularly Russian,lol, but other things in life that can have unforseen outcomes can be planned to have maximum chance of success.
You could say Warren Buffet and George Soros are the two biggest gamblers in the world, but they are clever men who make educated decisions, and prosper greatly from creating models that work.
 
The model of RCE that someone creates dictates whether it will be profitable for the developer, not the fact that it is an RCE model, or game.
 
Devs will do as they wish, it is always their choice, but please don't throw some bad math at us and expect us all to believe it.
 
Zen

I agree, just letting us all know that you plan to implement some form of RCE will bring lots of people back to AWS from EU, SL, and other RCE games. You don't even have to give a firm estimate on when you expect that to happen, just announcing it will do wonders!

You can suggest whatever you want. DL will do same stupid things, they did before, like pay to die yay ....
And why the hell you still trying to solve their problems if they dont want them to be solved, why even bother with idiot who will do same shit as always ...