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Pre-release notes [C210]
« on: November 27, 2012, 04:06:35 pm »
Hello everyone!

We are getting closer to the release of the next update to Survival [C210].

The major changes:
  • Tech Forum will be switched to read-only state, so only this forum will be alive and active (more updates are schedule to this forum itself)
  • Shutdown of the AfterWorld: Alpha project (everything you have in Alpha will be transferred to the Survival)
  • Launch of live version for AfterWorld: Survival project (the current test-database will be emptied and filled with the data from Alpha)

Regarding major features which will be introduced with C210 release:
  • Introduction/Tutorial for newcomers. All non-citizens will be asked to take a tutorial upon login to get used to the Survival and learn basics.
  • Fully functional rented storages, with ability to share the access with another avatar (private-owned only)
  • Map with almost all functionality from Alpha (except recording map data disks, which is planned to be implemented later). The new map will include "Fog of War" feature, so you will have to run a lot in order to open the full map.
Of course there will be lots of different fixed and improvements, the full list will be published upon C210 release.

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If you worry with the delay of this release... A lot of different things happen almost at the same time.
We had some financial problems, our lead developer had health problems (all is fine now). Broken hardware which is required for Survival development and full launch.
And the main reason - we are very small team of four people working on this project. The more project grows, the more it takes to push it forward. But we are still here, and don't plan to give up, so, we promise to continue working on Survival no matter what (even December 21st will not stop us ;)).
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Re: Pre-release notes [C210]
« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2012, 05:18:09 pm »
Glad to hear from you all and that everyone is healthy again.

All I ask is Please Please Please Please Please (Did I mention Please?) have the newbie stuff done and allow users to progress before going straight to Survival (killing alpha).  If we are to make a game where new players can't play, well its jsut not going to help with how people think of ever playing the game again.

thanks!
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Re: Pre-release notes [C210]
« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2012, 05:58:40 pm »
Finally we have news from you guys!
I took a pause from the game for some months, tried everything i could get my hands on, but in the end i still end up checking this forum daily...
Dale has pointed the main problem of this game, the problem you should focus mainly on - make the game beginners friendly, let them have the taste of the real deal and keep the here!
Looking forward for the new release, i wish you good luck!
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Re: Pre-release notes [C210]
« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2012, 12:49:22 am »
Very good news! Thank you for letting us know of the upcoming update. :)

"Fog of War"...hmmm, just one question - does the "Fog of War" come with running shoes? lol
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Re: Pre-release notes [C210]
« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2012, 04:18:40 am »
Great news and I'm glad to see that you are able to keep to your intended release time-frame! :)

If you'd like more feedback on the newcomer tutorials, I'd be happy to run through them too. Is it possible to set specific players up for this? I'm sure I'm not the only one that's willing to test the new tutorials.

I also want to push for a safer starting area for newcomers that what we've seen so far. Will all newcomers start in one of the quarantined areas starting in C210 instead of MV? That would be far more beneficial since the forcefields in NU are transparent enough for newcomers to see the outside world, giving more incentive to become citizens.
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Re: Pre-release notes [C210]
« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2012, 06:12:53 am »
Having not progressed at all in the Alpha, during the three years or so that I've had the game on my computers, I can say that the new-user experience really needs to be more gripping for new players. Please make the new user-experience fun, even for non-paying players, instead of just punishing them. The benefit of haveing more players in the game should off-set the costs, and allow for greater profits, than just having a few regularly paying customers. /$.02
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Re: Pre-release notes [C210]
« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2012, 10:47:24 am »
This is good news.  Took them long enough though. Let;s bring this up to speed.
I do agree with the opinions here. This game should be more newbie friendly. I started about 3 weeks ago and of all the new ones that started with me im probably the only one that still plays the game...
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Re: Pre-release notes [C210]
« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2012, 12:52:03 pm »


If you'd like more feedback on the newcomer tutorials, I'd be happy to run through them too. Is it possible to set specific players up for this? I'm sure I'm not the only one that's willing to test the new tutorials.


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Re: Pre-release notes [C210]
« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2012, 11:06:09 am »
Hello everyone!

We are getting closer to the release of the next update to Survival [C210].

The major changes:
  • Tech Forum will be switched to read-only state, so only this forum will be alive and active (more updates are schedule to this forum itself)
  • Shutdown of the AfterWorld: Alpha project (everything you have in Alpha will be transferred to the Survival)
  • Launch of live version for AfterWorld: Survival project (the current test-database will be emptied and filled with the data from Alpha)
Dear Dr.Butler,

If I am reading the post correctly - points 2 & 3 are worrisome - the reason players are still playing in AfterWorld Alpha is because AfterWorld Survival is missing a big chunk of  Functionality (as shown in this post https://my.afterworld.deelogic.net/survival/index.php/topic,648.msg3262.html#msg3262).

The implications of the above message is that C210 is the go-live release.
And that with  the release of C210 - Alpha will be turned off.

This will happen without us testing any of the missing Alpha features, nor with us testing any of the fixes to C209.

The term "live version" also implies we will no longer be needed to test and that the Participation agreement no longer applies.

So, I assume we will be required to agree to a live game type EULA at the time C210 is released.
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Re: Pre-release notes [C210]
« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2012, 03:58:23 am »
Jane brings up some good points. If there are new features being added with C210 (which I can only hope is the case since Survival is so far behind Alpha in overall playability), shouldn't there be at least a preliminary testing period before it's deemed the "live" version of the game? If not, could you explain a little bit why it's not necessary?

If the answer is that there won't be anything new beyond the tutorials, shared storage lockers, and maps, I fear that many more people will stay away from AW until withdrawal is available than already are. AWS simply does not have enough content and features to compare even to AWA as an overall game, let alone the many competing MMOs out there. Calling C210 a finished product without first adding all of the major features and functions of AWA would be a regrettable mistake.


I understand that you are all under extreme pressure from the dwindling player community but I have to be honest with you and warn against trying to call AWS C210 as a complete game. Many players rely on features in AWA that haven't even been seen in AWS yet, let alone tested and shown to be well-functioning.
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Re: Pre-release notes [C210]
« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2012, 07:00:21 pm »
but no one is saying that c210 is a complete game. it is just another update to survival. I totally agree with the alpha shutdown. They need to focus in that game and make people play it. With alpha online that is not gonna happen. If we can do everything in survival that we already do in alpha i will be happy. let us wait until they release the c210 update notes
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Re: Pre-release notes [C210]
« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2012, 03:14:59 pm »
Finally some good news!
O well, nothing's ever perfect in this real worl... ummm no, make it: virtual world, but the show must go on.

Long live Survival!

U know how this is, once AW always AW...
Survival is very cool, you're almost there. Just keep going and there will be many more like us. ;)
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Re: Pre-release notes [C210]
« Reply #12 on: December 04, 2012, 07:26:05 pm »
1. Lossehelin iss... the only "survivor" that i still see around, at the time that he started playing i think there were about 5 others who started and then stopped. I'm not blaming anyone or anything, often it's simply that the game doesn't fit the person, but i strongly agree that The Most Important part of the game, is to make the new-player experience fun, rewarding, exciting somehow. I'm not sure how, but players need to "get hooked" so to speak. I don't think anyone here is going to argue that the more players the better. So, a considerable piece of Survival should be spent on these tutorials, "learning/teaching" the basics of the game. (btw perhaps not on topic, but it would be really cool to have leaderboards, with different categories (at least i think that would be awesome)(Also off topic- (sry), but would it also be possible to have something of the following - have a "profile" page for all players, and keep track of stuff. The players could choose what to display what not to display, but just one idea is to keep track of animal kills, and also player kills.)

2. I will be happy to go to Survival, IF it functions just as well as Alpha does right now, most people have the opinion that its not quite there yet.

3. I really do think that the major updates need to be tested out, just in case.

PS: I don't mean any of the above in a negative way, i'm a slightly-enthsiastic supporter of the game, just voicing a few (what i think to be legit) points/concerns
thank you for your consideration
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Re: Pre-release notes [C210]
« Reply #13 on: December 05, 2012, 03:27:17 pm »
Be glad to shut down the old game and old forum and get on with the new life in Survival :)
Moving forward has been a long time coming.
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