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Do you have problems with AW in last few days/weeks?

Yes, I got "Runtime Error"
20 (20.4%)
No "Runtime Error", everything is running fine
16 (16.3%)
I'm using Windows 7 32-bit
4 (4.1%)
I'm using Windows 7 x64 Edition
16 (16.3%)
I'm using Windows XP
12 (12.2%)
I don't have last updates for Windows Installed
5 (5.1%)
I have installed all Windows Updates
25 (25.5%)

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Offline Maksim "Mad_Maxx" Maximus

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Re: Runtime Errors (feedback needed)
« Reply #45 on: September 24, 2014, 10:16:54 pm »
Not sure, but i think AW use only DX9?  AW:Survival work fine on XP SP3 with DX9
Yes XP is old OS but AW "engine" used by AW  (Torque 3D) is old too (like 5-7 years i AFAIK)  It get a good upgrade in server and network part last year, but client side (3d engine, visual effects, sound system, etc) is same and old. Doubt it really need/use new features not supported by XP.

Can anybody confirm AW:R use DX10 or any other new features not supported by XP? Or devs just forgot about XP at config and compiling stage  then prepare new client release ?
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Thanks for link to old forum - i think it is same initially.
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Re: Runtime Errors (feedback needed)
« Reply #46 on: November 13, 2014, 05:46:22 pm »
I downloaded the game using the torrent link today and i have constant crashes after few minutes of gameplay.
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Re: Runtime Errors (feedback needed)
« Reply #47 on: November 14, 2014, 12:53:32 am »
Hi TriMoon, welcome to AfterWorld! 8-)

Can you play other games on that computer without any issues, especially online games? Have you made sure you've got the latest video drivers for your video card?
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Re: Runtime Errors (feedback needed)
« Reply #48 on: November 14, 2014, 05:54:48 am »
Hi TriMoon, welcome to AfterWorld! 8-)

Can you play other games on that computer without any issues, especially online games? Have you made sure you've got the latest video drivers for your video card?

Thanks, i had played AW many years ago, i remembered when i entered game again hahaha
But yea i can play other online games just fine and as said its fully updated including video drivers ;)

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Just checked to make sure and it seems it has a new video driver just now. Cross fingers.
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Re: Runtime Errors (feedback needed)
« Reply #49 on: November 14, 2014, 08:28:39 pm »
Drum roll...
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Re: Runtime Errors (feedback needed)
« Reply #50 on: November 15, 2014, 03:05:03 am »
No change at all, same crashing and same frequency....
(See server logs for my connect/disconnect/connect times...)
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Re: Runtime Errors (feedback needed)
« Reply #51 on: November 15, 2014, 04:05:03 am »
I take it you don't have another computer you can try? AWR tends to be less stable on lower-end hardware.
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Re: Runtime Errors (feedback needed)
« Reply #52 on: November 15, 2014, 08:38:29 am »
I take it you don't have another computer you can try? AWR tends to be less stable on lower-end hardware.
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Do you know my hardware, why would you even say such thing?
I tried all settings of the game from lowest to highest and it all runs fine at normal speed until the game crashes @1600x900 resolution fullscreen...
So lets skip the non-technical helpdesk replies which tend to try shift the problems towards the customer and be honest about the crap coding of the software shall we?
They need to better audit their coding and properly initialize all variables on declaration point before usage, and code checks for valid values to avoid random corruption....

That said,
I know you probably was honestly trying to be helpful here, but i tend to get toxic when i smell unneeded wrong info...
And no, i don't have nor plan on purchasing a top-of-the-line fresh pc just to test THIS game....
Hint about me: See my wikipedia page ;)
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Re: Runtime Errors (feedback needed)
« Reply #53 on: November 15, 2014, 08:15:32 pm »
I suppose I jumped to the conclusion that your hardware was lower-end because of your screenshot's lower resolution, which typically falls into the laptop range for 15.6" monitors. As a gamer and game tester, I'm sure you're well aware that laptops with lower resolution are almost always paired with low-powered mobile versions of GPUs.

I did not mean to imply that your hardware IS necessarily low-end because I also know that AW can be played in a wide range of resolution options and that some people prefer to play in a less-than-full-screen resolution window while also having other windows open for multi-tasking while grinding away at skills.

I'll go ahead and guess that you did not mean to be demeaning and imply that I don't know what the hell I'm talking about, but that is how it comes off. I haven't written myself a Wikipedia page that tells my life story, but it's easy enough to see what my level of understanding is of this game, games in general, computer hardware and software in general, and programming by looking over my posts here and my contributions to the game's wiki site, wiki.afterworld.ru.

So yes, when I asked if you had another computer to try it was because (A) I'm trying to help your gameplay experience with what knowledge I have of all of the above and (B) my own experiences with different computers have shown me that there are vast differences in gameplay due to what should normally be small differences in hardware capabilities. I never suggested nor recommended that you go out and buy a brand new Alienware desktop or laptop to test this game, so I'm not sure why you're jumping to that so quickly, but trying another computer may well be very illustrative.

And yes, I know that the game is not coded up to AAA production company standards. As you can see by my posts, I've reported many, many bugs to the game's developers so it is clear that there is a lot of work to be done before this game is polished enough to be called "complete." If you've got programming tips that you believe will be helpful to the devs, you should submit them in a Helpdesk Ticket so that they can easily find them and see if they apply to and help the game.

Another wrinkle that you may or may not be aware of is that the dev group and the game's funding has changed dramatically over the past year. This means that the current group probably has a lot of catching up to do to get up to speed with the code itself while also trying to fix the many new and old bugs.

So please, try to cut people some slack instead of just slinging insults because you assume that the replies you're getting are completely useless.
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Re: Runtime Errors (feedback needed)
« Reply #54 on: January 20, 2015, 09:07:35 pm »
Anti and Dr.B, should this topic still be pinned at the top of the Tech Forum section? There haven't been any forum reports on the problem in a couple of months now.
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Re: Runtime Errors (feedback needed)
« Reply #55 on: January 21, 2015, 09:29:08 am »
Un-pinned this topic.
Ty for reminding
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Re: Runtime Errors (feedback needed)
« Reply #56 on: January 21, 2015, 01:31:02 pm »
no runtime errors

windows XP 64 bit version (modified server 2003).
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