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Re: Advancement ??? When and how???
« Reply #15 on: July 23, 2013, 05:45:24 am »
Back when i started i was a member of a big society, all i had to do was to ask in soc chat if anyone can borrow me the needed CD? Usually somebody said: i have extra so u can keep it...
In your situation, 2 ways out - either to try to buy the CDs u need or to try to loot them while crafting.
On higher levels the latter can become an interesting quest on it's own, but at your level it's a risky business, i wouldn't recommend it.


What is actually happening right now is the game leading you out of your baby cradle (Quarantine) to the dangerous world outside. This is intentional, and although it is a sandbox game without any borders, storyline or level restrictions, it still has an underlying logic.
You can defy this drive and make your own way, but all things become much easier if u follow this path. Well, maybe "easier" isn't the right word here, rather the opposite :)
Anyway, i mean, it won't be boring and you might find new goals out there. And then at some point u will find you got all the stuff u wanted back then, when u still lived inside quarantine.


In AW othen the direct route is not the fastest way... ;)
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« Reply #16 on: July 23, 2013, 04:35:18 pm »
I do not craft unless I am using 20awd in the one craft at once.


ie. (not real numbers, just making up an example: 3 dagger pugios at 3/100) . you might get a CD drop from less awd, like 15 or 18, but i have found that i get a cd drop EVERY single time if I use 20 or more awd in one craft.


this goes for both asp and mpf. example, if you make (again not real numbers) 50 helves for a steel axe, if it costed you 20awd for that craft, then you'll get an mpf cd drop from that section of craftable items (tools) so in the tool section it might be an mpf for an axe or pick of mining gear


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hope that was at least somewhat helpful
the easy answer is that this game isn't easy :/ many are driven away by how it is difficult for new players. but it doesn't exactly get easier.. you just have to accept that to get anywhere in the game, you'll have to work for it. BUT. just choose to do something that you do like to do, and you will end up having fun while making progress.


My NUMBER 1 advice to you is, find someone active who can be your mentor, until you become a citizen. When you become a citizen, find a Society that has active players and join it. <- imo important, especially for new players. Many players wing it by themselves, and i'm not really sure why
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Re: Advancement ??? When and how???
« Reply #17 on: July 23, 2013, 05:53:21 pm »
Back when i started i was a member of a big society
I think he just called me fat....  anyways.... yes I agree with what is said.  I think your timing is bad because the amount of people in NU to help new players is pretty much zero.  Before I took a break I was the only one I ever saw in there.  So find some people online, maybe someone online can tell you here they are and you can become friends and chat with them.
 
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« Reply #18 on: July 24, 2013, 02:12:37 am »
Thank you all for your interest and responses. Now I assume most of you played a lot before and are further advanced so you may not have noticed any changes in the game on the lower level. Take for example the 16 awd rule in crafting .. I got 3 crafing cd's for b&v parts and one for m-p boxes .. maximum I can craft with 2 gun cd's and the m-p box cd amounts to 2 awd's .. with the 3rd gun cd the max is 6 awd's. That may changes as a player gets up in the experience of the crafting (I will keep an eye on that) . I'm not sure if in the beginning the low level weapons and tools were " free" to craft but now you need a cd for all of that ( even the dagger pugio).
Anyhow .. jarod agreed to bring me the cd's for the pick ( yeahhh .. look what I can make) and that should keep me going for a while .. but don't worry you all .. i'm sure something else comes up .. lol.
And since you are all here .. what are the survival points for?
 
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Re: Advancement ??? When and how???
« Reply #19 on: July 24, 2013, 02:26:00 am »
Use of Survival Points are a secret kept locked in the developers vault.
We can tell you what you get them for but not what they will be used for.
You get Survival Points for spending money (deposits, crafting, hiring storage, and the like) plus 1 for every 5k of a Global SAU reward.
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« Reply #20 on: July 24, 2013, 02:37:24 am »
Hmmm .. a secret .. I like that ..  lol
Thank you jane for the posting.
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« Reply #21 on: July 24, 2013, 06:59:21 am »
Survival Points have been used once - the amount of Trading skill was given to players according to how many Survival Points they had accumulated up to this point.
If the game survives the current crisis (i hope it will), then i'm sure it will have other (probably similar) uses in the future.






Almost forgot the most important thing - dale is fat!


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Re: Advancement ??? When and how???
« Reply #22 on: July 26, 2013, 08:01:41 pm »
     I started crafting when you got a bonus CD for every crafting attempt.  Now, as has been started, 20AWD seems to be the cut off point for automatic bonus CD.  For MFPs that are low AWD cost, you will want to craft the max possible in 1 attempt to have a chance at a Bonus.  Axe and Pick blade MFPs are an exception.  Do 50 per attempt.

     For ASPs, when you have full sets, you want to take the number of repairs and the quantity to craft into account.  To use picks as the example, with 3 repairs, craft as much quantity needed to get above 20 AWD.  After you craft max uses, you can buy a blank CD on market and upgrade the ASP.  You will then be able to craft 6/100 picks.  At the level 10 ASP. 1 30/100 pick gives you a bonus with each craft.

     Also, if they haven't changed it, you will continue to get bonus cds for each 10th pnote through 150.  After that, you just get pnotes.

     If you see me in NU, I can trade you AWD or picks for unrefined ores, wools and pnotes.  When in game, I am either out picking and killing small mobs or standing in the storage waiting for possible trades,  I hope they get a global chat in NU soon.  It will make things much easier for new players and traders alike.


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Re: Advancement ??? When and how???
« Reply #23 on: July 27, 2013, 02:44:07 pm »

Almost forgot the most important thing - dale is fat!


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« Reply #24 on: July 27, 2013, 05:03:14 pm »
Hello All
Thanks to Axle I found out some of my troubles ( mainly why my combat skills hardly advanced). All the equipment a newbie gets isn't giving any advancements or sau (I knew that for the pick). Neither the gun nor the healing kit. Going on the market and buying gun or melee weapon with a lot of damage gives only very limited gains ( I bought right in the beginning a B&V escort and a Dusan filibuster). Axle gave me a player made B&V, dagger pugio and a heal kit and my skills are now rising accordingly ( side effect .. i'm getting killed again by slugs .. lol).
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« Reply #25 on: July 27, 2013, 08:13:56 pm »
oele, I wanted to explain those details when we traded but since I had to log out right then I was hoping to be able to log in again soon to go over it all with you. I'm glad Axle was more available to explain it in the meantime though, it makes a HUGE difference in everything you do.

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« Reply #26 on: July 27, 2013, 08:25:17 pm »
You are right jarod .. now it almost seems like a different game to me .. even the loot I get from killing slugots or wolfs is greatly increased ( pugio vs filibuster) .. and new skills opened up I didn't know exist .. mainly in the medical. So for right now I'm  a happy camper and don't even mind going after slugs for sau and experience.
Again .. thank you all for your support
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« Reply #27 on: July 28, 2013, 05:55:15 am »
That's what this section of the forums is all about, so it's no problem at all. ;-)

By the way, crafting works similar to weapon and tool skilling (except that you have to craft items rather than use them, of course) so if you want to pursue crafting the CDs I traded to you are where you'll get started.
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« Reply #28 on: July 29, 2013, 11:09:14 pm »
Good thing you brought that up Jarod .. do I have to decide ( say after I can safely walk outside NU) which way I go with the character development ? Or does it make sense to try to be in a couple of professions good? I look at the possibilities and feel like being 14 again .. trying to figure out what I want to be in life ( actually still try to find the answer to that one .. lol). Right now there is no question about that since I can mainly pick rocks , slaughter mobs and craft some small things .. which is a good start to learn the game and players. But at what point would I (if I have to) decide which way to go?
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« Reply #29 on: July 30, 2013, 04:17:48 am »
That's one of the best things about AW: there is nothing preventing you from picking one, five, or ALL of the professions! The choice(s) is/are yours to pursue!

Of course, the more you choose to go after, the more expensive you playing becomes or the longer it (typically) takes to become well-skilled in all of them. To be most effective in any profession, it's best to achieve at least Stage 5 or 10 in each of the avoids (or have some fairly good armor) and the same for rifles or blades. That way you can defend yourself against a lot of different mobs while you pursue your other goals. You'll be far from unkillable but you won't be a pushover either, and while you defend yourself you'll be continuing to gain skills anyway.
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